Brett Cooper — Dave's Killer Bread, Wonder Bread & Nature's Own Loaded With Weed Killer | Episode 134
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So, we are a year into Trump's second term. And I truly believe that in many ways, make America healthy again or maja will be what Trump 2.0 is remembered for because in one year we have banned petroleum based dyes for food. We have increased testing for heavy metals and infant formula. We have the nation's first ban on adding fluoride to public drinking water. We banned certain diets and chemical additives in public school meals.
Take that, Michelle Obama. There are now restrictions on using SNAP benefits to purchase soda and processed foods. We are now using AI models instead of animal testing, lowering the prices of prescription drugs. We have safety reviews of fluorides, upending the food pyramid, talking about the benefits of ketogenic diets with schizophrenia, which obviously is very close and personal to my heart, and reducing the number of recommended childhood vaccines.
That's a lot. The government usually doesn't get a lot done, but they certainly did in the last year. So, I reflect on this list and my mind is blown. And a lot of this happened because of pressure from everyday Americans. But I want to let you know that the work is not done yet. And unfortunately, we are still getting started because it looks like Maha might have been compromised by big chemical. Now, before we get into this story, make sure that you like this video and subscribe to the channel if you've not already.
And if you want to stay up to date on every single one of our episodes, make sure to ring that notification bell. So, what you need to know is that in every level of government, Big Chemical is basically strongarmming Maha out of the way and fighting to strip Americans of their rights. And like all bad laws, because we have experience with this, Congress tried to sneak one of these in during the 11th hour of a 20,000page bill that had nothing to do with maha or big chemical.
Section 453 was a provision in the House Interior Environment Appropriations Bill, aka the latest funding bill, was proposed to limit state or local authority to regulate pesticides and protect manufacturers from failure to warn lawsuits from everyday Americans. One article on this reads that a new federal proposal could tie the hands of regulators, leaving children and communities exposed to proven toxins for decades.
Section 453 is buried in the US House Appropriations Bill for fiscal year 2026, which begins on October 1st. It is a short clause in a very, very large bill that would prevent the Environmental Protection Agency, the EPA, from updating pesticide warnings in a timely fashion. The EPA conducts a full review of the safety of individual chemicals only once every 15 years. Section 453 would lock pesticide safety standards in place between reviews even if strong new evidence of harm emerges.
So essentially this is prioritizing huge chemical corporations over Americans. And I just have to say there is nothing that infuriates me more than things like this being snuck into funding bills. They are expecting that Americans are not going to pay attention. They are expecting that Americans are not going to care about a funding bill that happens every year. They're not going to care. They're not going to know. It is shady.
It is gross. It is completely dishonest. But we did catch on. Now, what is worse is that it was Republicans that stabbed us in the back with this provision. Just watch this clip from Alex Clark's podcast, Culture Apothecary. >> Not so much President Trump, but the Republicans in Congress are working very hard right now to give immunity to chemical manufacturers to provide them with this shield so that if when we get sick from their chemicals that they produce, we will not be able to sue for damages.
>> And this is exactly what happened with the vaccine companies. Correct. This is exactly the same thing that happened and we saw how that worked out for vaccines and it's something that we have been fighting against for years at this point. Now earlier this year back in January I went on Fox and I was talking about this because Maha was basically you know celebrating the fact that they were banning paper straws in different states and they were you know flipping the food pyramid and I was like yeah okay that's great wins but we have a much bigger issue here.
I don't want you talking out of two sides of your mouth. I don't really care about the paper straws when you are giving immunity to chemical companies that are poisoning Americans. When you are prioritizing foreign corporate interests over Americans health and our rights, Republicans, you are supposed to be the party that is about states and individual rights, about getting the government off of our backs and out of our homes, about protecting American families, about being America first.
And Republicans in Congress voted to take away our states rights to regulate pesticides and our right to sue when companies mislead us and possibly poison us. So obviously this provision being included, it being pushed by Republicans was a major slap in the face to much of MA. Thanks to outrage from Americans and big advocates, the provision was inevitably removed from the funding bill, which I was really happy to see.
And you can see that here. This was published on January 5th. Maja outrage kills contentious pesticide provision in funding bills. Now, unfortunately, this story and this fight did not end with that provision. And an important note for you guys to understand as we dive into this is that the primary lobby for legislation like this is Bayer Pharmaceuticals. This is a company that makes aspirin, cold medicine, allergy and heart medicine.
They do cancer research drugs. Now, you might be asking, why is a company whose mission, according to their website, is advancing science for a better life and focusing on patient needs. Why are they lobbying for this legislation? Well, that's because Bayer purchased a company called Monsanto back in 2018 for $63 billion. And Monsanto's claim to fame is the product Roundup, the weed killer that almost everybody has used at some point in their life whose active ingredient glyphosate has been linked to cancer in thousands upon thousands of lawsuits.
And this is where it really gets sinister because a pharmaceutical company that makes cancer drugs, that does cancer research, bought a company whose main product is linked to cancer. All goes in a circle. Do you see the connection there? Do you see how allegedly it might benefit them for that product to be on the market for Americans not to be able to sue if they do get cancer? Just food for thought. Again, it is sinister.
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Now, I used to think that I ate pretty clean until I actually started checking because the food industry is really good at one thing, which is making ultrarocessed stuff look healthy, screenwashing. And when you are tired and busy and you're grabbing groceries fast, you don't have time to decode 27,000 ingredients on the back of one product. Which is why I am so obsessed with this app called Olive. All you have to do is pull out your phone and scan the barcode on your favorite foods.
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And so in many ways that has caused the EPA and Big Chemical to tighten their grip on the Maha movement and a new Substack piece dove into all of this. This article is titled Pesticide Industry Infiltrates Maha to derail reforms. Crop Life America, the lobby group for Bayer and Setta, has all but wiped out any prospect for pesticide health and safety reforms. What a black pill for this lovely Thursday afternoon. The author, Lee Fang, wrote, quote, "We are going to ban the worst agricultural chemicals.
We're going to remove conflicts of interest from top farm and food safety agencies." He's talking about something that Kennedy pledged on the campaign trail and when he was appointed. He goes on and he says, "Those promises have since fallen by the wayside. The administration has reapproved the cancer-causing weed killer, Dicama. deleted references to pesticides from its Make America Healthy Again action plan and delayed enforcement of limits on so-called forever chemicals in drinking water.
There has been no meaningful action on controversial pesticides Kennedy previously warned about, including neoicotenoids, hopefully I'm saying that correctly, incesticides and glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, which he once called one of the likely culprits in America's chronic disease epidemic. I mean, they literally deleted references to this in the Maha Action Plan. Leang goes on and says, "Meanwhile, representatives of pesticide and chemical companies have flooded into key regulatory roles.
Former lobbyists Douglas Troutman, Nancy Beck, Lin Anne Deleva, hopefully I'm saying that correctly, Scott Hutchkins, Kelsey Barnes, and Kyle Kungler now occupy senior positions overseeing agriculture and environmental policy. And guys, these lobbyists and people in the administration are now working overtime to get these liability shield laws passed at any level they can. They are literally going state by state to try to get these shield laws passed.
And in some states like North Dakota and Georgia, they have already been successful. Today on her stories, Alex Clark, again, we watched a clip from her podcast earlier. She was posting specifically about Georgia. And she was questioning why Big Chemical was so desperate to pass the first liability shield law there last month. And you can see this headline here. Georgia passes law shielding pesticide makers from liability over cancer risks.
And that was passed in the spring of 2025. It went into effect on January 1st of this year. Now, on her stories, Alex shared these articles. One from Atlanta magazine. Why are so many people getting rare cancers in this small Georgia town? Then this one from 2024, health experts agree that Northeast Georgia is seeing exponentially high rates of thyroid cancer. Now, obviously, she was talking specifically about Georgia, but I also want to say it is not just Georgia.
Because in terms of cancer rates, 10 of the top 20 states in America are in the southeastern United States. And politicians, they argue all day long that it is because of access or poverty. Or the usual scapegoat, it's racism. That is why so many Americans in the south are getting cancer. But we have to ask, could it be because people are living in rural, more agricultural areas near where farmers are spraying their crops with these chemicals?
Or could it be things like this, which Alex also shared on her stories, how Georgia's carpet empire contaminated drinking water in East Alabama. I mean, in Louisiana, they even have an entire where due to industrial chemicals, the cancer rate is often 50 to 700 times higher than the average. 50 to 700 times higher. and these lobbyists who work on behalf of those chemical corporations who are now embedded in the Trump administration in many ways they are funding and pressuring our representatives to strip away some of the only ways that we have to hold those companies accountable and based on Maha's shrinking and retreat on the issue and the attack on advocates who push the EPA and the lobbyists it does seem like the movement has been compromised in a lot of ways and this is why you guys it is so important to be involved in your local elections to know what is going on in your own state we talked about that in regards to Virginia and what happen there and the laws that are being passed, you know, almost instantaneously since the Democrats got into office.
And so, you should also pay attention because of things like this. And a great example of paying attention and getting involved in your states is that in Tennessee, my own state, they tried to pass one of these bills just a couple of weeks ago, and again, it was pushed by our own Republicans. But thanks to 20,000 emails, thousands of phone calls to representatives from people like you and me, that bill has been paused.
It did not make it through the judiciary hearing. Florida and Nebraska, Kansas, they are all also considering similar laws. And so, Florida testing everyday bread for glyphosate could not have come at a better time. And we have Casey Deantis, who is an amazing Maha advocate to thank for this. Just take a look at this headline. Florida testing finds tripledigit levels of weed killer chemicals in popular bread brands.
And you can see the results and the toxin levels here. We are talking brands like Nature's Own and Dave's Killer Bread, Wonderbread, Sarah Lee, and Pepperage Farms. So, the reason why I'm pointing this out and the reason why I think it's so amazing that Florida did this testing is because the risk to Americans in regard to these chemicals, it is significant even if you do not live in a rural area. If you are not a farmer or a landscaper, if you don't live or work near industrial plants, it is in our bread.
It is in the bread that everyday Americans are buying for their kids, making peanut butter jelly sandwiches on. If you're not making, you know, homemade sourdough with your freshly ground wheat, like this is what Americans are ingesting on a daily basis. And you might think, "Oh, well, I eat organic. It's totally fine." No, I also fear for those of us who eat almost exclusively organic. Like, we are also not in the clear.
Bringing Alex Clark back up again again, who was one of the biggest MA advocates who truly walks the walk in terms of her diet and her lifestyle, she just tested how much glyphosate is in her body, and the results are crazy. To piggyback off of yesterday's bombshell glyphosate hearing in Florida, here is my recent lab work showing how much glyphosate is in my body as somebody who eats all organic. This is a neurotoxin that Americans cannot escape from in our soil and our water.
It does not wash off produce. It is a known carcinogen. And then here are her results if you want to look at that. What she is showing and what Casey DeSantis in the state of Florida is showing, those are the impacts of these chemicals that these corporations want to hide from. That is why they are so desperate to get these liability shields. And I mean, they are pouring money into local elections specifically to get Republicans elected who will tow the line and further their agenda.
And what is so scary to me and should be scary to you is that despite all of this constant push back and many of these bills being paused and thrown out, Bayer is taking this all the way to the Supreme Court. And on January 16th, the Supreme Court announced that they will hear Monsanto v. Darnell. And this case involves a man, John Dernell, who was from Missouri, who was awarded $1.25 million after arguing that Roundup gave him cancer and that Monsanto failed to warn him of the risks.
Now, Bayer appealed this decision, arguing that because the EPA approved Roundup's label, Missouri law cannot allow a failure to warrant lawsuit such as that. So, Bayer is now asking the highest court in the country to rule that federal pesticide law, EPA stamps of approval should bar state level failure to warrant lawsuits. But the problem is most of us do not trust the EPA to actually do their due diligence when it comes to approving these chemicals.
I mean, as we talked about earlier, these approvals are only updated every 15 years. And these approvals are also based on data that is submitted by the chemical companies themselves. So obviously there is a conflict of interest here. That is the conflict of interest that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was talking about that Maha seems to have forgotten about. Again, they deleted it from their website. But back to the point, there have been situations where these corporations have been accused of lying or forging the data in order to get that stamp of approval.
And now they are trying to argue that that allegedly forged stamp should be the baseline approval. Total liability shield. Americans cannot ask for accountability, cannot fight for accountability. And so that is why on every level they are fighting to make the EPA label the end all be all. And they are getting Republicans to agree. And what I want to remind you of here is that they are not even fighting THE FACT THAT IT CAUSES CANCER.
THEY'RE NOT SAYING YOU defamed us. You're discriminating. No, they're not saying any of that. They're just saying we don't want you to sue us if you get cancer because we don't tell you that cancer is linked to our products. That is insane. They just want us to stop talking about it and stop holding them accountable. Let that sink in. They don't actually care about the health risks. They're not trying to innovate. They're not actually trying to make Americans healthier to improve our food and help our farmers.
They just want to protect their profits. And I think we can all agree obviously that this is because they are tired of paying out settlements to people who have gotten sick. For example, Bayer, which is just one company, has already paid out more than 11 billion to settle claims over them failing to warrant about the risks of cancer, Parkinson's, and more. And so if the Supreme Court sides with Bayer and Monsanto, it will shut out thousands of failure to warn cases in the US and it will supersede any state laws that require stronger warning labels or pathways for accountability.
Meaning that just because we had that bill put on pause here in Tennessee, we actually won't be protected. And again, that should scare all of us. So all of this is to say that even looking at all of the accomplishments from Maja and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., we should not be deterred. We should not be distracted from what still needs to be done. What Americans voted on, what they gave RFK Jr. a mandate for, that is what we are fighting for.
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