Matt Gaetz — The Anchormen Show EP 149 - Fauci is a Mad Scientist

Matt Gaetz in "The Anchormen Show EP 149 - Fauci is a Mad Scientist" (Former Congressman Matt Gaetz), July 2026. Full transcript below, with the movement's reading and the gaps we could not close.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for the Anchorman Podcast with Matt Gaetz and Pearson

Speaker 2: Sharp. I'm Matt Gaetz

Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Anchorman Podcast. In just a few moments, my buddies are assembled at the One American News headquarters, and we're going to go over all of the news of the day. But I get asked all the time, where people can go to

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And

Speaker 4: then we had something completely the opposite, which was the story of an elephant in the country of Nepal that one family believes they were being hunted by. The family had suffered fatal casualties at the hands of the elephant in two locations that were like nine miles away from each other. And this is where I've got to bring in my co-host and good friend, host of The Sharp Report, Pearson Sharp, and... The aforementioned host of David Pollack Primetime, David Pollack. Pearson, you saw my disappointment in the outcome. Share

with our

Speaker 4: audience where the One America News viewer really, really

Speaker 5: enjoys getting information

Speaker 6: Well, I mean, personally, like I told you before, I would rather watch a rampaging pachyderm than Sophie Cunningham. But I can't

Speaker 7: speak for everyone, although apparently the ratings agree. You know

what

Speaker 3: David? This is why Pearson Sharp is an absolutely irreplaceable voice in

Speaker 8: everything we do at One America News. He is every man. I am wrong. Pearson is right. I would have bet everything that Sophie Cunningham would

have

Speaker 8: have been a more captivating and interesting story than a murderous elephant several oceans and continents away but now i know less sophie cunningham less wnba more murderous elephants that is the way i can give you the best handoff my friend yeah

Speaker 9: what do you think i'm down with the murderous elephants i mean look the sophie cunningham

Speaker 10: thing i mean i think we like that but you know pretty girls that's been done murderous elephants that's

Speaker 11: something totally new and unusual. So I think there's something there. Not to the people in nepal oh so this is a common well

i think they need to

Speaker 11: get tough on crime maybe

Speaker 12: they need to send donald trump there to send in the national guard to do something about the murderous elephants

Speaker 13: in nepal make elephants great again

Speaker 12: we do well

Speaker 4: pearson pearson speaking of elephants on a rampage you just had to love what we saw this week in the united states senate where anthony fauci's diary is laid bare he's asked questions he takes the fifth

uh... you know

Speaker 4: Nobody has been on the Fauci beat like Pearson Sharp at One America News over the years. Pearson, I want you to just

Speaker 14: take your time and walk us through your assessment of what we saw and what we observed. Oh

man, starting with

Speaker 15: laughter. That makes me nervous. No, because Matt always

Speaker 16: accuses me of being unsatisfied. And as we discussed on his show yesterday, I am still unsatisfied. I think some good things came. out of this, we got to see the little man laid bare, the man behind the curtain. He's no wizard, he's just a tiny person who wanted attention. And I hope, I hope for humanity's sake, that's the worst of it

you know

Speaker 16: that he just was doing this for the gram, as they say. But there is the distinct possibility that he is an evil genius and was doing this on purpose for his own nefarious reasons. You know, his unearned hero

Speaker 17: reputation, means everything to him, and he and his legal team are gonna do everything they can to try and preserve that. His six lawyers, half a dozen lawyers that he had in there, he, all he has left now is his reputation, and that's hanging by a thread. And I think that a lot of people have woken up to what he is and what he represents, and that is a government that hates us and is willing to do anything to control

Speaker 18: us. He was the figurehead of that movement for a lot of us on the right

and I

Speaker 18: think... I think people who are in the center who have now come to wake up to that fact. You know, I was one of the people

Speaker 19: who, you know, I wasn't all in on the medical establishment, but I was someone who got my flu shot every year. I believe that our doctors wanted the best for us and I had no reason to doubt that. And then Fauci comes along and we can go back to the reports from February of 2020. All the way back then, I was doing reports talking about how this didn't make

Speaker 17: sense. This did not add up. And I think in March, I think it was March 28th of 2020, I did a report about ivermectin. I think it was one of the first reports

that

Speaker 18: was done on the subject. And I talked to a local doctor, Brian Tyson. We've had him on the show. And I went down and I went to his clinic

Speaker 17: in El Centro. It's in Imperial Valley in California, which is right on the border. And they had one of the worst... cases, surges down there of anywhere in the nation, very poor, a lot of Mexicans coming over, no healthcare

Speaker 19: And he saw thousands of people. And immediately he was very wary of the talk about vaccines. We didn't have one in March of 2020, but he was developing his own protocol with some other doctors in the area that involved hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. And he said that he had

Speaker 20: almost 100% success rate with his protocol, unheard of. He was administering this to thousands of people. And I went down to his clinic and I talked to some of his patients. And one of the patients I talked to was this middle-aged man who was probably about 600 pounds. He could barely talk

Speaker 17: He was just gasping and wheezing. The kind of person that you'd expect a mild breeze to knock over

Speaker 20: medically speaking. And this guy had gotten COVID and he was on death's doorstep. and Tyson gave him his protocol, it saved his life. This guy made it, he lived. And I was there talking to him and he said it was incredible. I started taking this and the next day I felt 100% better. And when you have that kind of testimony, that kind of evidence, you have the doctor saying, "Well, that's just anecdotal." Well, it was anecdotal 20,000 times. You know, that's how many people he treated with this protocol and saved them. So I don't know how much anecdotal evidence you need, but it worked for him. And so when you have these doctors looking down on that, you really turn a corner and start questioning everything you're being told. Everything stops making sense. If they're lying to us about this, what else are they lying to us about? And Fauci for me and a lot of people represented all

of that

Speaker 20: He represented

Speaker 19: everything that was wrong with the medical establishment. And the more he got up there and insisted that he

Speaker 20: was the face of science and that we all trust him, the less a lot of us did. And so

Speaker 19: I really am glad that Rand Paul has been on this these last couple of years and Ron Johnson and the rest of them. They have been pursuing him doggedly and rightfully

Speaker 20: so. I just don't know what's going to come out of it other than smearing his name. That's a lot, that's worth a lot because that's all that he cares about, clearly from his diary. But we want more than that

Speaker 19: we want justice. And I was thinking about it. You know, if you are drunk, you

Speaker 20: can't get married. You know you can't sign legal documents if you are half the marriages in America right there If you are you know an old person with Alzheimer's or eventually disabled

Speaker 22: you can't sign legal documents You're not legally allowed to so if you have a president who is mentally impaired Surely any documents that he had a pen signed for him can't be legitimate

and

Speaker 22: And I know we had What's

Speaker 20: Her Bucket in D.C., Janine Pirro, we had her throw that out. She just dropped the case. I don't know why. She just dropped it

But I

Speaker 20: feel like that is a legitimate avenue to pursue and one that could really turn the corner on all of this. Although Josh Hawley was saying that Fauci doesn't have legal protections from the Fifth because of what he got from the pardon. So I don't know what's going to happen with this. I guess I'm glad it's happening. But for me, it's a lot of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Just talking. Again, more and more talking. I want action. I want someone behind bars

Speaker 6: Thanks for

coming to my TED

Speaker 6: Talk

all right david how

Speaker 24: do you react to the testimony i i

Speaker 25: mean i i like that um pearson said a 600 pound guy uh could be pushed

Speaker 11: over by the wind medically speaking um yes yes that was a very good medical assessment the uh first before we get any further matt i i want to plead to your to your um to your mercy here, not all short guys are untrustworthy. There's a few of us left that you can still trust. Let me restore the trust in short people for you. Not all of us are like Anthony Fauci. Thank you. Yes. But

Speaker 26: on... Well, so it's Italians I shouldn't trust. I'm

Speaker 27: not going anywhere near there. I'm staying away from

Speaker 28: it. Let me tell you about Fauci's testimony. I'm half Italian there. You watch it. The thing is this. And half short. And half short. All

Speaker 31: right

Speaker 30: So, gosh, I talked about this for probably 20 minutes on the show today, and I'm going

to be

Speaker 30: talking about it probably for the next week. What we saw today in

Speaker 32: front of the Senate. was a guy who can't go to jail for the things he said and still can't find the honor to tell the truth. And that says a lot about the guy who's behind the science, right? I mean, here's a guy who made up the six feet rule. Made it up, like, eh, you know, it's more than two, it's less than 10. It's good enough, let's just close businesses because they can't be six feet. Well, yeah, that's the next part. But first they closed businesses, remember, and they put kids behind plastic walls based on it's more than two and less than 10 literally no science behind it but trust the science then they made us wear not one mask but two masks even after admitting that one mask didn't do a damn thing and certainly two masks didn't it was just lie after lie after lie then he finds out he's proud of basking in in the sun in front of trump and even even over you know overstepping trump and being more popular than trump this guy And I'm not the conspiracy theory guy, right? I'm the guy who goes, "Okay, let's look at all the facts and let's come up with a reasonable answer." But here's the deal. This guy

Speaker 33: is out here celebrating the media attention. Now you see him kind of sit back and hide behind a constitutional protection that doesn't even protect him. I'm starting to think, well, maybe this guy's a little evil. He lied about the gain-of-function research. He lied to Congress. People aren't in jail for doing that same thing. Not Anthony Fauci. So I'm starting to think that maybe this guy is a little bit more evil than I was willing to believe. And if that's the case, all the deaths, all the families that died alone, all of the iPads where you said goodbye to your loved ones are hooked up to ventilators for no reason when we knew that there was treatments they could have had that would have saved their lives. How deep does this conspiracy go? And even though he might not be able to go to jail for what he did, he could still go to jail for what he did after he was pardoned, and lying to Congress happened after he was pardoned, which is why he's pleading

the

Speaker 34: fifth in front of the Senate, because this guy can't find the truth even if it's in his diary

Speaker 35: So I would agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. And interestingly, Natalie Winters posted a great

Speaker 36: comment

Speaker 18: on Twitter. Showing a clip of Fauci it

was

Speaker 19: like a year or two ago where he said I will absolutely come on and meet with Congress

Speaker 20: and I will testify I have nothing to hide I'm happy to do it as soon as they ask me I'm gonna go out there and I'll talk to Congress whatever they want I'll answer any questions Well, how did that turn

Speaker 37: out? Well, he answered them with, "I have listened to my lawyers and I'm standing behind the Fifth Amendment and I won't answer any of your questions." There was... That was a terrible accent, by the way. Awful. No

Speaker 19: that was awful. We're going to move past that. Real quick, I had previously mentioned that I wasn't sure if he was a mad scientist or

just a

Speaker 19: sad little guy who wanted attention, and I forgot that we have a clip that I want to play right now where... Uh, he was being questioned and the, I forget the lady's name who was questioning him, pointed out that he used taxpayer dollars to send transgenic

Speaker 22: mice that contained the body parts of aborted five-month-old babies to China

Speaker 38: jokingly calling it a BLT sandwich. Can we play that

We have

Speaker 39: learned that U.S. coronavirus researchers at UNC shipped, quote, humanized or transgenic mice to China by around 2017 for use in their dangerous coronavirus work. Under your NIAID coronavirus, researchers also used aborted baby body parts in mice research and taxpayers paid for them to do that. NIH funded coronavirus researcher Dr. Ralph Baric and his colleagues at UNC put parts of livers

thymuses

Speaker 39: and chunks of human fetal lung that they got from aborted, almost five-month-old human babies. They put those parts in their research mice. They disgustingly named them BLT-L mice and wrote they had created a, quote, "sandwich" of aborted body parts in the mice. Get it, folks? BLT

A

Speaker 40: BLT sandwich

Speaker 41: Matt, what's your thought on all this? So here's

my

Speaker 42: take. All right. All right

Speaker 43: Here's my take. I'm way more satisfied than Pearson because there was a moment in this country where

Speaker 44: more important than who you voted for, what political party you were a member of, more important

Speaker 4: than your religion, more important than your favorite sports team, was where you stood on Dr. Anthony Fauci. This question divided people at

Speaker 45: workplaces, it divided people in families, it divided churches themselves. This was a threshold

Speaker 4: question ripping the country apart. Now, Pearson Sharp and Matt Gaetz and probably David Pollock were on the side of skeptic, of all of this and asking questions about the lockdowns the deprivation of rights and the empowerment of a universe of tens of thousands of fauci's that were all of a sudden emerging in city managers offices and at the public county health department these people seized power we never knew i always

Speaker 45: thought these were the good people but we saw so many of them seized any power they could to force us behind unproven masks and to make us show cars cards

Speaker 46: about our personal medical information, just to get inside of buildings. They made us sit outside of perfectly good restaurants and eat our meals next to the gutters in our communities

Speaker 45: They did all of this. People got addicted to drugs. People lost their homes. People became homeless. People turned in their dogs and animals at an alarming rate

Speaker 4: because they couldn't afford to keep them without jobs anymore

And all of it. was

Speaker 4: driven by the trust that was just reposed in this man by

Speaker 45: far too many people. And the fact that that got ripped open, to me, instills a little bit of deterrence into the power infrastructure and into the information space. That if you are so egotistical, that in a

Speaker 4: moment of dread or concern or crisis, you seize power and destroy people's lives— that you will be exposed for it as he was today well

Speaker 12: but you hope that it's going to be covered that way in the media because again the the reality of what's really happening and what the media tells you is the disconnect that we have

Speaker 10: with the general population they're probably only going to see segments of this because of course they were working today when the hearing was happening so they're going to see the clips on the news and what do you think cnn is going to show the people do you think cnn is going to show the people that they lied to the american people alongside anthony anthony fauci and so that's what's so important that hopefully people are watching this podcast. and watching OAN so they can get the truth. But the reality is these lies that we're told, these lies that are horrible politicians stood behind when they took down your basketball nets and told you you couldn't get in the sun. I hope the people get to see this testimony and not the Democrat talking points where they were honoring Fauci for being so brave to step forward. That is the big question. Will the

Speaker 48: American people be allowed to learn the truth even as the truth is revealed

Speaker 47: We have another

Speaker 18: clip of

the

Speaker 18: I just want to remind people of what we went through. There was a paddle boarder. This was April

Speaker 17: 2nd of 2020. And this paddle board was arrested for violating LA County Lockdown

Speaker 49: Let's play the clip

Uh-oh, he's screwed. Now

Speaker 50: he's got this guy

Speaker 51: This guy's coming in. Let's see the highway pursuit. Oh my God

look at this. You

Speaker 52: cut them off! Throw the tacks down, pop the

tires! I like the

Speaker 53: Baywatch music

Speaker 54: Oh my gosh, spray

them with a

Speaker 55: hose. Uh oh, sheriff boat

so

Speaker 58: we've got like this is what fauci supported i'm surprised they didn't shoot him i know they should have shot him like

Speaker 59: right that's that's what fauci would have asked for but the crazy thing about this pearson and again everybody's watching is going okay that's nuts but what did happen yeah but why he wasn't allowed to be out of his house which is why he was arrested he wasn't allowed to be out of his house but yet the people working for the government the three or four of them on the

Speaker 60: boat less than six feet apart were allowed to be on their boats while they go and capture him. That's the, The thing about when you let the government take away your rights and you don't question it, what the government does doesn't make any sense, but it doesn't matter. That guy deserved to be locked up. And all the people who hid in their homes and wore their masks like good little soldiers, well, they didn't want him out on his paddleboard because how dare you go and put our lives at risk while we're locked

Speaker 30: inside? It was the perfect... I mean, literally the perfect communist playbook playing out in real time with the Nazi playbook, what we're willing to take from you and what you're willing to accept. And then once you're accepting all of the pain and misery, how you're willing to lash out on your fellow man because they weren't willing to suffer like you. Oh man, it never would have played out more perfectly than this, Dr. Fauci is the face of all of it

Speaker 61: And don't forget

Speaker 17: That while they were locking us down in our homes and arresting people for being out on the ocean paddle boarding, they were letting tens of millions of unvaccinated, illegal

Speaker 49: aliens flood across our borders, bringing all kinds of diseases, diseased illegals just pouring into our cities. No problem at all

But

Speaker 30: can I say something real

Speaker 60: quick? You said when they locked us in our homes. I'm going to say something here because I think we need to change that. When we locked ourselves in our homes, because the government in this country cannot board up our doors and tell us we can't leave. We consented. to being locked down because we were on. No, we did. I didn't. You didn't. But many people in America, they took the vaccines because they were forced to. They stayed in their homes because they were afraid to. That man on the paddleboard was a hero because he wasn't willing to be locked in our homes. We were. How many Americans said, well, we're just going to do our part. But there's a part of society

Speaker 3: Hold on, David. Yeah. Hold on. There's a part of society that kind of demands that. Like, I hated gutter dining outside of a perfectly good restaurant. But

Speaker 4: you know why I did it? Because my wife wanted to go out to eat and so like if you want to engage in certain social like if you wanted to walk outside in manhattan beach in california and you did not have a mask you got a ticket they wrote you a ticket and used the force of law to extract money from you and uh you know it uh it reminds us of the importance of staying resilient and my friends at all family pharmacy can help you can go to allfamilypharmacy.com forward slash matt get your daily maintenance medications pearson sharp bathes nightly. ivermectin and he gets his from all family pharmacy you can also get nad plus men benzidol glp ones and vitamins that can keep you strong tough and free you go to all family pharmacy.com forward slash matt fill out a quick form then a doctor will prescribe what is appropriate and then it just shows up at your door you don't have to paddleboard off to go to the local pharmacy you don't have to deal with any bureaucracy or line or mess just all family pharmacy.com forward slash Matt

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Speaker 60: for COVID. Anthony Fauci wrote in his stupid little diary, which I believe, by the way, had a My Little Pony on the front, one of them stupid little locks that easily could have been picked. But we know

it all

Speaker 60: was true, that you could have been treated with those. And instead, they gave you that rendesivmir or whatever that they said when death is near. and they put it then into And then CNN would run out there with the death counter and say, "See how deadly this is? Stay home." God, what a scam. What a scam. - I wanna

Speaker 16: play another clip for us. We have Fauci, who is praising the vaccines and encouraging everybody

Speaker 19: to get them and telling people that if they won't get them, you have to make their lives hard, and they'll eventually comply. Let's play that one. - You

were

Speaker 63: gonna have schools, universities, And colleges are going to say, you want to come to

this college, buddy? You're going to get vaccinated. Lady, you're going to get vaccinated. Big corporations like Amazon and Facebook and all of those others are going to say, you want to work for us? You get vaccinated. And it's been proven that when you make

Speaker 63: it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological

Speaker 64: bullpen and they get vaccinated

Are

Speaker 65: all objections to COVID vaccinations ideological bullshit, Dr. Fauci? No

they're not

Speaker 66: and that's not what

Speaker 67: I was referring to. Well, that's exactly what you meant when you said making it hard for people to live without getting a vaccination. You affected people's ability to work, travel, be educated, to actually flourish in American science, to self-determine, as we're all given God-given rights. Shame on you

And I

Speaker 16: wanna point out that they did make life difficult

Speaker 19: but I am very stubborn and I never got the vaccine. And I also never wore a mask, not ever. We stopped going to restaurants because I wasn't gonna support any Nazi establishment that would force that on us. The only time that you might say that I wore a mask was when we were in the hospital and my wife was giving birth

And

Speaker 19: they couldn't force her to wear a mask because she was, you know, giving birth and they can't kick her out of the hospital. But they

Speaker 17: had armed security guards come up and tell me that I was gonna be thrown out of the hospital and not be able to see my wife give birth if I didn't wear a mask. So I took one and I held it up to my face for the 30 feet we walked down the hallway into her room or the delivery room

And

Speaker 19: then I was able to take, you know, lower my hand

and I

Speaker 19: never wore it again. And doctors would come in and they kind of harassed me about it, but no one ever bugged me again about it. I never wore a mask. and I will never

Speaker 17: advocate for that. It's absolutely insane. And you're right. There are people who wanna comply with this stuff. They love it. They eat it up. There are people in my family who do that. But I don't

Speaker 6: know. I don't know how you get through to those kinds of people. I think those are just

you know

Speaker 6: They want to follow there

Speaker 4: are people like that in every family. Yeah, every single family in America had people that were divided by this

Speaker 44: question It was the medical civil war that we all endured But I want to put you in this situation when I was in Congress at this time

Speaker 4: Democrats controlled the committee chairmanships They had the majority and so if you even wanted to be recognized to ask tough questions to the FBI director to the attorney general to Fauci himself They made you endure the humiliation ritual

Speaker 70: of wearing the mask. Yes, that's exactly what it was

Speaker 4: And would you? I did. I complied. Look, I was not going to not get my questions out to these people in

Speaker 3: power who were harming my constituents. And so I put the stupid thing on and endured the personal humiliation for the sake of the work. But how would you have handled that, Pearson

Speaker 6: Fortunately, I wasn't forced to be in that situation. You know, we work at One America News. No

Speaker 42: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want

Speaker 3: you to address the hypothetical. And then I want to hear from David about the most humiliating mask experience he has

Speaker 71: had. If

Speaker 72: there is a

Speaker 17: greater good, then I think I

Speaker 6: would. Fortunately, I wasn't put in that situation. You would

Speaker 73: do the humiliation ritual? To

Speaker 6: accomplish a greater

Speaker 74: good? All right, all right

Speaker 75: David, most

All

Speaker 75: right. What did Anthony Fauci make

Speaker 4: you do, David? Something you personally did because of Fauci's

Speaker 3: nonsense that you felt vindicated for today and that you can be free of in this therapy session we call the Anchorman Podcast

Speaker 9: The group therapy. But somehow I feel like I'm getting psychologically worse after every one of these. So, but I will say this. I don't feel vindicated. I

Speaker 10: will never feel vindicated because we knew at the very beginning what we were enduring and we knew what was behind. we just weren't allowed to say it. And it just sucks that that was the world we lived in. And I'm ashamed of a lot of things I had to do, but, and also a lot of my friends around me who were just willing to go along with it. But that being said, Matt, I have a, you know, not a funny story, actually. It was 2020 when, remember March is when they started locking everything down. I was running for office around, no, it was about, yeah, August of 2020. And I got a phone call from my wife when I was at a donor meeting. And she says, hey, listen, I'm at the doctor with our daughter. Something is wrong. She has inflammation in her eyes. Her eyes are all red. And they think it's something serious. It could be cancer. And

Speaker 30: my daughter was in third grade at the time. I forget how old she was, like eight. And so we had to go do every test you can imagine. So we were in hospitals and doctor's offices at the worst possible time to be there. But in one instance, they wanted to give her a – and by the way, she didn't have cancer. She had an inflammatory disease in her eyes called uveitis. Long story. But they made her

do it

Speaker 30: you an MRI of her brain. And this, this is an eight year old kid who had to have an IV with contrast in her arm and they stuck her in an MRI and it was an hour and 15 minutes. This is a child and they made her wear a mask in the freaking MRI machine. And she wanted to take it off, but she, they told her, you can't move your head in this test or you're going to have to start it over. So they stuck my daughter in a goddamn tube with a mask on her face. Nobody was in the room, about the MRI machine because she had to wear a mask and then one

nurse

Speaker 30: came and said, no, you can take it off, honey. And then the older, grayer, angry, more liberal nurse with the face shield on and the mask

Speaker 33: said, no, no, no, honey, you have to keep it on. So my eight-year-old had to sit in a tube with a mask over her face for an hour and 15

Speaker 76: minutes. And then subsequently, of course, after school restarted and she was dealing with all the medical issues that lasted for years after that, she had to wear a mask every day in school and all

Speaker 33: these other things that occurred. So it was that they tortured our children. Then she lost friends because not only wouldn't we let her, take the vaccine she couldn't take the vaccine because of their autoimmune condition and she lost friends over because their parents wouldn't let our kids hang out because oh we were anti-vaxxers they tortured our children and they tortured us through our children there is no vindication anthony fauci is an evil person every politician that followed his guidance knowing that it was false is an evil person and and he may not go to jail but we will never forget what they did to us And that's

Speaker 76: why we're talking about this today. That's why I talk about it

on my show

Speaker 76: show this can never happen to America ever again

Speaker 77: amen

Speaker 16: amen yeah that's great um

that actually

Speaker 16: segues probably into a great clip

of

Speaker 78: Bernie Moreno let's do it yeah

Speaker 16: can we play the Bernie Moreno

Speaker 79: clip because I think that expresses how we're all feeling yeah it was about six years ago today that I decided

I'm going

Speaker 79: to give up my businesses sell

them all

Speaker 79: run for office run

Speaker 80: through the United States Senate

Here I

Speaker 80: am sitting in front of you six years later saying, who the do you think you were for doing that? There is no defense of what you did

You may have had a

Speaker 80: 50 plus year legacy of public service, but it ends in total and complete disgrace

Yeah

Speaker 81: and it

Speaker 80: should

W

Speaker 82: We'll put him down as a maybe

And

Speaker 18: I wanna, we've been going on for this for a while, but there's so much here to talk about. And I wanna go deeper on Fauci because

this isn't

Speaker 18: new

Speaker 83: Yeah

Speaker 17: What we're seeing today, what happened in 2020 has been going on for decades. This guy is evil. And there's a time that a lot of people have forgotten about back in the 80s and 90s when he was actually the director of the office of AIDS, which sounds like an amazing place to work. And he ran experiments on

Speaker 61: orphaned children, not just orphaned children, orphaned black children, other minorities as well, but that was-- - No way, Pearson. - Yes, absolutely, he ran experiments. The drugs were given to children, most of them were black or other minorities, without their consent, without proper protocols, without having independent monitors to watch over the children. And all

Speaker 20: of this was in violation of the law. All of it. It was illegal. And they ran these tests on these kids

and a

Speaker 20: lot of them, they used drugs that they knew had deadly side effects. And a lot of these kids died or ended up having horrible side effects that persisted

Speaker 19: for years

I did

Speaker 19: a special on this and we're gonna try and run it again, maybe this weekend

This guy is a

Speaker 84: psychopath and he did, he killed kids for his own experiments. And it wasn't just kids. After that, he went on to torture dogs. You know, there was the whole Beagle experimentation. And they picked Beagle specifically because they're a very kind and forgiving breed who don't bite their handlers

And so

Speaker 84: this guy locked beagles up in cages and had them tormented with sand fleas that bit them until they bled. He cut them open while they were alive just to see what would happen. Like this guy is a monster. Now, pure

and

Speaker 19: simple, he's a monster. And he's been doing this for decades. So

whether or not he has a

Speaker 19: presidential party, there's gotta be a way to put this guy behind bars. There has to be. There

Speaker 85: could be no justice

while he walks free. Well

Speaker 86: Pearson, I

think

Speaker 87: the most likely outcome there would be some state

Speaker 44: attorney general under some long arm statute, some fraud, some misstatement, some, you know, purposeful abuse of power statute. You know, those

Speaker 62: have been very challenging to maintain convictions on lately. The Supreme Court has thrown out convictions under the honest services. doctrine that had wrapped up a lot of people

Speaker 3: in power who had abused that power for financial gain or other reason, and so you really have to look also at a narrow window of time. David did a really good job explaining it earlier. It's worth coming back to. If what you care most about is when the criminal justice process and all of its glory comes for Dr. Fauci, you have to look at what the pardon covered when it covered it, and then ultimately the big question about whether the pardon is legal at all. President Trump has himself sent the signal that he's got doubts as to the legitimacy of that pardon, and we'll see how the Department of Justice reviews it. But

when you

Speaker 3: look at Fauci's congressional testimony. than his own notations in his documents, and

Speaker 62: then how he was covering up for Peter Daszak and the EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan lab, it looks like elements of a conspiracy that would be very interesting for a prosecutor to review

And I

Speaker 62: think that's the right frame and context

Speaker 7: One interesting thing

i

Speaker 7: remembered i wanted to mention is that there were several senior scientists in 2020 who were working

Speaker 18: with fauci in 2021 very close to him and these emails previously revealed this isn't didn't just come out but i think a lot of people have forgotten

about it and

Speaker 18: these senior scientists i think there was like

Speaker 17: 10 or 11 of them and in their private emails they all told him you know we think this was man-made this

Speaker 19: is this came from a lab we think it was leaked from the lab and we think we need to you know

Speaker 17: discuss this or you know, bring more light to this. And Fauci called for a meeting

Speaker 88: with these people

and

Speaker 17: they went together and all the scientists, they had a meeting with him, a private meeting. And I think it was like the next day or after that, they all came out and said

Speaker 19: No, we agree that it was leaked from the market. "This is a wet market thing. "It was not man-made

Speaker 17: and we all stand behind that." Three months later, those scientists all received a $9 million grant from

the NIH. So that's the

Speaker 19: kind of stuff I feel like really needs to be out there, and people need to understand. Well

Speaker 3: and then, David, do you think somewhere some prosecutors are looking at a map of where those different grantees are and

Speaker 62: where jurisdiction might take hold for a local DA, a state attorney general, you know, someone... who wouldn't fall under a federal pardon to review that conduct. Because Fauci didn't just stay in

Speaker 4: Washington. He traveled around

Speaker 3: the country, he made pronouncements, he gave speeches. Now some of that, there might be immunities that would apply and that would be appropriate defenses for Fauci. But if you're looking at public harm, abuse of power, if, you know, I am of the view that this was a great day, because we had a reckoning with Fauci there, taking the fifth. And frankly, taking a tongue lashing, Pearson says there could be no day walking

Speaker 4: in peace until Fauci is subjected to the criminal justice process. What are you buying, David Pollack, attorney David Pollack, that is within the realm of the possible

Speaker 89: there from a jurisdictional standpoint and dealing with this hairy issue of the pardon

Speaker 90: Well, Matt

From

Speaker 90: what my Democrat friends have told me, no one is above the law. And so if no one is above the law

Speaker 10: look at the precedent they set when they went after Donald Trump. And this is where Democrats always overplay their hand, and it comes back to bite them. Because when they prosecuted Donald Trump, the presidential immunity, all the immunity of, by the way, the people that were caught up in Crossfire Hurricane that they threw out the window. Well, immunity is a valid defense, but it is not a bar to prosecution. And

Speaker 30: so I think states' attorneys generals can. take a look at the actions in the state. They might be barred from federal prosecution, but as Tina Peters, you can't pardon somebody in the state court. And I'm not saying that is the example, and I'm not saying we should do things that are unlawful. And what happened with Tina Peters, I think we'll be looking at throughout history as a perfect example of how everything got out of control and innocent people went to jail when they shouldn't have. But that being said, Anthony Fauci is not an innocent person, and nor is the people around him who proceeded, especially

Speaker 76: Dr. Birx, in the face of evidence to the contrary of what they were telling the American people. Therefore, if state's attorney general will think they can indict for certain reasons, raise the defenses. But it doesn't keep you from being prosecuted at the state level, and I think states should be taking a close look at whether or not the things he did were outside the scope of any immunities because— Look, there's evidence now he's pleading the fifth. Clearly his lawyers think that there might be some sort of self-incrimination that could have happened today. And maybe it is at a state level. I don't know. But if nobody's above the law, that means nobody's above the law

Speaker 91: And that means people can look

There was

Speaker 6: an interesting theory that all of this was, and I think there's credible theory to that, all

Speaker 18: of this was actually about the election

in

Speaker 18: 2020 election

Speaker 92: the mRNA technology I wonder that so

Speaker 62: often

yeah I

Speaker 92: wonder

Speaker 62: so often whether Donald Trump was so good at politics that they literally had to

Speaker 45: figure out a way to change the rules at the last minute so he wouldn't win because he was definitely going to win but for COVID there's no question about that so Biden would have been exposed And Trump

Speaker 62: draws energy from the crowd. That's his whole shtick as a public servant populist

So the

Speaker 19: idea was that, you know, Fauci was going to be in the middle of this and help facilitate this shift to mail-in ballots so that they could steal the election

And that

Speaker 19: there was no intention to kill all these people. That was totally unintended. They didn't mean for all these millions of people to die because of what

they did. Maybe that's

Speaker 19: true, I don't know. It

Speaker 17: does seem very likely, and there's actually a great clip, phenomenal clip, of George freaking

Speaker 22: Soros in February of 2019

I think

Speaker 22: coming out and saying, right, it was February of 2020. Anyway, it was very early, it was before

Speaker 17: it happened, but right before it happened, saying, something incredible needs to happen to shake up this

Speaker 19: election, otherwise Trump's going to win. And maybe that's a pandemic or maybe it is global violence or something, you know, a riot or something like that. But we have to do something to shake this up and change the election. Immediately after we have COVID. And then three or four months after that, we have George Floyd and the summer

of love

Speaker 19: so i i think very

Speaker 93: clearly this was engineered i think there's so many angles to this though and uh i don't

Speaker 30: disagree with what you're saying but i think i don't think we could put it all together in one big chunk of one giant master plan i don't think anybody in this government's that smart but i do believe people are smart separately to take advantage of a crisis and i believe democrats saw the opportunity and i believe their friends in the fake news saw an opportunity to utilize the hysteria to put in place

these

Speaker 30: mail-in ballots that, by the way, have been going on a long time, but the use of them have always favored Democrats. And they saw an opportunity to massively expand exactly the use of mail-in ballots. And proof of that is look at the objection that they have to the Save America Act. Eighty-plus percent of Americans have no problem with voter ID, proof of citizenship to vote, and then reigning or regulating mail-in ballots. Most Americans don't care if you have to prove that

Speaker 10: you should be an actual voter before you get a mail-in ballot. However, the Democrats are fighting it because they know they know they'll lose so i do think the democrats took an opportunity with

the

Speaker 76: pandemic to push out these these mail ballots but also republicans did too by the

way

Speaker 33: republican secretaries of state they were doing the mail and ballot game too and it wasn't till i think it was last election election before that they finally stopped automatically mailing ballots everybody was like let's get everybody a ballot this is great more voters so i do think political

Speaker 76: operatives saw an opportunity to utilize mail ballots i think the drug company saw an opportunity to sell drugs and test their mrna technology i I think the pharmacy saw an opportunity to make money off of vaccines. Everybody saw an opportunity here and they took advantage of it and I and I and I think it was just a combination of government Saw an opportunity to take the rising spread of populism around the world and slap people back in their homes and tell them Well, you don't have as much control of the government as you think so I think it was an all-incumbency

of an

Speaker 76: all-encompassing opportunity that a lot of people took and um and so as far as the origin and what the the nefarious plan was whether it was a nefarious plan whether it was a leak of of uh technology in the lab we'll never know but i do know that people took advantage of this and dr fauci didn't

tell the

Speaker 76: truth matt any final

thoughts I think that

Speaker 3: the road to accountability can be a long and a slow one. I think this was a step in the right direction. I was elated to see Fauci when cornered offering no defense of that which he had done because it gives us a chance when the next time the country almost comes unglued. Maybe those of us who were asking questions will have a little more credibility with our friends, our family, our loved ones, our co-workers, and and there'll be a

Speaker 62: stronger sense of resistance going forward if they ever try it again

Speaker 94: Yeah. Yep. All right. Next, I want to get to Shiloh Hendricks. Perfect segue, which I

Speaker 18: think is just an incredible story on the face of

it

Speaker 18: and uh okay yeah we can play the clip

Speaker 95: okay all right that's what you say nobody diggin that

little

Speaker 96: kid you

Speaker 97: call him

a

Speaker 97: the little

Speaker 98: child are you about

Speaker 97: to hit him you chase him here he

Speaker 98: took my son's stuff

Speaker 97: so you so that gives you the right to call the child five-year-old inward if that's

Speaker 98: what

Speaker 99: he's gonna that's what you're gonna call him that's what he's gonna act like so

there's so

Speaker 16: much to unpack in this story yeah

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Speaker 18: One, this

is a

Speaker 18: first amendment case in my opinion. But two

Speaker 19: and the thing that's just baffling to me is the guy, one, this kid was stealing from her

bag. I

Speaker 19: mean, that's no reason

Speaker 69: to use that word, but the kid was stealing from her bag. He was in the wrong. Shouldn't have been doing that

Speaker 104: Yeah, didn't he have autism? That's

Speaker 105: what was alleged, yeah. That's what's alleged, yeah. But I mean, it's

easy to

Speaker 6: say that, to cover. But the incredible

part is

Speaker 6: the guy... Is it

Speaker 17: though? Is it easy to fake autism

Have you seen all

Speaker 17: the fraud in the Somali community

Yeah. -

Speaker 17: Okay, all right, all right

Speaker 22: man. - So, the crazy thing, and to that point, is this guy who was filming her

sexually assaults children. He

Speaker 107: didn't have a kid. Why was he at a children's park? So

Speaker 22: the guy, Sharmaki Ormar, The man who filmed himself berating Hendricks in the park was charged on two counts of sexually assaulting a 16-year-old foster care runaway. And he's at a park with kids filming them

And she's the one who

Speaker 84: gets in trouble. Well

That is a

Speaker 14: very serious charge, of course, everyone has their opportunity at due process before Pearson convicts them

Speaker 62: in a monologue, but Pearson, you think this is a setup in what way? I'm not understanding what operation

Speaker 108: you say these folks are running

Speaker 17: I don't think that they were running an operation. I think this all happened organically, but I think, as in

Speaker 19: many cases

yeah

Speaker 19: What was it? The guy who stabbed, the black guy who stabbed Irena

Speaker 17: Zaruska on the, they said he wasn't mentally competent to stand trial and that they've used that for so many of these cases. Whenever somebody stabs some, you know, black guy stabs or attacks a white person, well, he's

Speaker 19: not mentally competent to stand trial. So they use, you know, they just, they give them mental incompetence to excuse their behavior. They do that all the time. So, I think that's probably what happened here, but regardless, I mean, you shouldn't

Speaker 17: use that word against an eight-year-old kid, but I understand the outrage and the anger looking over and seeing someone rifling through your belongings, your child's belongings, and being

Speaker 109: upset about that. What was the charge he was—she was convicted on one of the— was it criminal mischief? It was something like— Disorderly conduct. Disorderly

Speaker 59: conduct

Speaker 3: is what I was— It was disorderly conduct. So, the question is, legally speaking, is it disorderly conduct to yell the N-word at an eight-year-old child

Speaker 110: So the jury said no. That kind of strikes me as the definition of disorderly comedy

Speaker 22: Well, they use it under a fighting words legal rationale, and the rationale assumes that certain forms of speech are tantamount to violence because they will certainly result in violence, which in this

Speaker 109: case, they did not. Well, okay, so... There was two counts

Speaker 10: The count where she called the child the N-word, that actually, she was not convicted on that one. It was against the person with the camera because of her behavior towards that man. And I don't know what evidence was presented at trial that made them believe that that was threatening to that individual. Maybe there's other video footage that we didn't see that wasn't in that viral moment. But the point is, this... is no longer a free, it is a free speech case. If she had been convicted or charged with what she said to that child

Speaker 30: we would be arguing about speech. And I think the Supreme Court would have been clear on how that goes. Regardless of how we disagree with the language, you still have a right to say what you want. The question becomes the conviction that she does have, and she didn't go to jail. I think she got like six months probation and a fine or something like that. But it was her behavior towards the individual with the camera. Now, granted, bad facts make bad law, and maybe she can win on appeal. If she's even going to appeal it, I doubt she will. But I don't think this is necessarily the First Amendment case we want it to be, but it's still a really crazy case. So there's a couple other

Speaker 111: Facts that I think need to

Speaker 44: let me let me draw a fine point on that David Do you believe that someone has a First Amendment right to go yell the N-word at a child in a public park? It

Speaker 10: depends because like everything with the First Amendment it all depends because if that child

it

Speaker 10: was affected in some way by that language. It's an interesting legal question because if the child was traumatized from it, maybe it's a civil case, maybe not a criminal one, it would all depend on the facts surrounding the use of that word and even if it was that word a different word, like even if she made threatening gestures to the kid and he reacted a certain way, there could be instances where certain speech can trigger crimes or civil liability

In

Speaker 10: this instance, I don't think that situation, again, I haven't seen the whole

Speaker 48: video, warranted a crime in that instance, and the jury agreed with that

So I

Speaker 48: think it's

Speaker 4: case specific. - I'm just trying to think to myself as a parent, what would be qualifying under my fighting words doctrine

Speaker 112: Like to all the dads involved in making this program, David Pollack, Pearson Sharp, myself, our director, just like think about yourself in a park And somebody comes up and starts yelling at your child. How aggressive and racist and threatening do

Speaker 4: those yells have to be before you knock them in the face just out of pure instinct? I would say the fighting word threshold for Pearson Sharp

Speaker 114: would be shockingly low. But I think in that instance, if she yelled

Speaker 30: at the child regardless of what came out of her mouth, and let me be very clear

I

Speaker 30: am 1000% appalled by this, I think it's disgusting. Yes, you have a right to say whatever you want, but that is a child. I don't even care if he stole a thousand dollars from your purse and he didn't have autism. You don't scream those things at a child. Like you have to have enough self-respect and restraint to do the honorable thing and find their parents that they have no parents, remove your child from the situation and get law enforcement involved if necessary

Speaker 10: but you don't yell the N word at a child. Now that's fine, put it aside. The issue here

Speaker 30: is if you're yelling at a child. Now, had she gotten that kid's face and didn't use that language but said anything and made that child afraid? Well, absolutely. I do believe that there's a crime there. And so it just – I think the word used

Speaker 10: there makes the situation very difficult to analyze. But if she's just speaking about that child or far away from the child and he heard her, maybe he didn't hear her, I don't know. It's a

Speaker 93: complicated case. We're almost out of time

Speaker 17: Yeah. But there are some facts I need to get to because they are critical, I think, to an interpretation. of what happened

Speaker 7: here. So Rochester, where this happened, where Shiloh

Speaker 22: Hendricks was prosecuted for a slur, gave a man 180 days in jail for raping girls. The victims

Speaker 17: were four and nine years old at the time. And in court, they said there is no moving on or getting over it. Same city

same city where

Speaker 7: that happened. Her

Speaker 22: judge, Judge Krista Daly

has a mind-blowing history

Speaker 22: of giving sexual offenders a slap on the wrist. For example, she gave one man no jail time for a child

Another one

Speaker 22: no jail time and a minor fine for sexual assault of a minor

She

Speaker 22: did sentence one man to 30 days in jail for sexually assaulting a nine-year-old, but he got work release the whole time

So I just

Speaker 84: wanna say this is frighteningly parallel

to

Speaker 84: the grooming gang rape cases we have in the UK where 250,000 girls at least were

Speaker 17: trafficked by Muslim rapists and they were just let go by the judges that no problem whatsoever. And now you have judges in America that are letting Muslim

Speaker 20: rapists off. On, you know, slaps on the wrist for nothing and giving the white woman who used a slur, you know, prosecuting her for that. Well, can I be fair to the process

Speaker 30: She was prosecuted by prosecutors. She was arrested by police

Speaker 10: She had a jury deciding her guilt or innocence. Now, the sentencing, you can make an argument of, well, maybe she got too harsh of a sentence. She didn't do jail time. I'm just defending the legal system just a little bit here. It's frightening

Speaker 11: It's not the judge

Speaker 107: doing everything. The judge is doing these things. Well, no, the judge, the case got assigned. The cases that I listed, no jail time for child porn. It's a separate issue. I'm saying that's legitimate

Speaker 93: concerns, but I don't believe it's... Anyway

Speaker 19: happening in the same city. So I feel like there's more sides to this than is being presented in the media, and that just needs to be recognized. But that wraps up this hour of Anchorman. Good times. So on those two very positive, uplifting stories, we

Speaker 7: hope that you will join us again next week for some

Speaker 116: more rounds of radicalization

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