Matt Gaetz — The Anchormen Show EP 147 - The American Dream

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Speaker 2: Welcome back

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Speaker 3: The Anchorman Show. I'm Matt Gaetz, host of The Matt Gaetz Show on the One America News Channel. You can catch

Speaker 4: us 9 o'clock Eastern, 6 o'clock Pacific every weeknight. We talk about the news of the day, politics, what's going on in the courtrooms and on

Speaker 5: Capitol Hill. But tonight we have a special evening. It is movie night on Anchorman for you because my good friend and forever co-host Pearson Sharp has

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Speaker 9: President Trump has resisted that. We got this message from the mayor. Take a listen. Benjamin

Speaker 10: Netanyahu is a war criminal, the architect of a horrific genocide against the Palestinian people

He is

Speaker 10: responsible for the killing of more than 73,000

people. For

Speaker 10: the maiming of tens of thousands of children, as those who survive undergo amputation without anesthesia. For the targeting of neonatal hospitals and maternity care centers, denying newborns even the chance to live. For the countless people he starved as he blocked food and humanitarian aid from reaching

them. For

Speaker 10: the gunning down of hundreds of aid workers and journalists. And just last month, the UN confirmed that Palestinian children continue to be deliberately targeted and killed by Israeli armed forces, more than eight months after the so-called ceasefire. All as we, as Americans, pay for the bombs that do the killing. It is clear that we do not have the independent legal authority to enforce this warrant. The federal government, however, does, and I call on them to join the ICC and execute this warrant. And I want to be equally clear: Benjamin

Speaker 11: Netanyahu is not welcome in New

York City. how

Speaker 12: about that Pearson what do you make of it

I

Speaker 13: mean there's so much there's so

Speaker 14: much to unwrap in this

I mean

Speaker 14: he has he has a god complex obviously he's delusional the extent of his power that he thinks that he has and the the the priorities that he has here are just astonishing to me that he would focus on this

Speaker 13: perceived conflict overseas the people of New York didn't elect him. Perceived conflict? Well, obviously there is a conflict, but the conflict that he sees happening over there, his vision of that

Speaker 15: his version of it. What do you think he got

Speaker 16: wrong

Speaker 17: The

the

Speaker 17: rank antisemitism. I mean, he hates Jews

Speaker 14: There's an argument to be had about not agreeing with the war and thinking that the war was engaged under false pretenses. You know, there's reasons to disagree with the war, but I think his is an ethnic conflict with the war. He hates Jews patently

Speaker 5: But what claim did he make that you disagree with? Because obviously just a criticism of Netanyahu's tactics in the war is not anti-Semitic. No

Speaker 19: it's not. But that's a cover. You know, he's not just going to come out and say, I hate Jews, so we need to go after Netanyahu. You know, they have

Speaker 20: these humanitarian covers for all these causes that they champion. So does

Speaker 21: everyone who hates Netanyahu hate Jews

Speaker 20: No

No. -

Speaker 20: No, of course not. But he has been explicitly anti-Semitic in the past. And you can't argue with

Speaker 13: that, from his ties to terrorist groups on down the road. But the

thing that

Speaker 13: shocks me most or that I just find Astonishing

Speaker 14: is that, you know, the people of New York didn't elect him to arrest Netanyahu. They elected him to protect them, to keep them safe, to

Speaker 19: keep their city running. And he wants to talk about the people that are dying in Israel. What about the people that are dying on his streets as he tries to dismantle the police department? As he ignores people being set on fire on subways, you know, young girls being stabbed to death by crazy people

How

Speaker 19: is he protecting them? That is what the people of New York need. They need someone to protect them from that, not from Netanyahu. And even the people on CNN were laughing at

him for

Speaker 19: trying to make this sound legitimate. It's just incredible the scope of power

Speaker 20: he thinks he has

Yeah. I've got a

Speaker 6: different take. I looked

Speaker 4: at this as a classic example of governing in prose while campaigning in poetry. Zoran Mamdani

Speaker 8: said during the mayoral debates where he was up there with Cuomo and Eric Adams and Curtis Sliwa that he intended to have Netanyahu arrested. And the kind of boy mayor energy

Speaker 4: around all of this is

If

Speaker 4: you didn't have the authority to enforce an international criminal court warrant in New York City, why say it in the debate

Speaker 9: right? It's a virtue signal. And I think that's what you're going to see from a lot of these democratic socialists. They

Speaker 4: are going to want to virtue signal to the most extreme position. Now, when it comes to his criticism of Netanyahu, I agree with it in large part. And I don't hate Jewish people or Israel. I think Netanyahu has been a terrible force for the Jewish people and a terrible force for Israel because under

Nebuchadnezzar

Speaker 4: Netanyahu's leadership, you've seen bipartisan erosion for what was, I think, a righteous and proper support for Israel's goals when Israel is acting like a normal country, not a country that is slaughtering children in Gaza, expanding its Greater Israel Project into Lebanon and baiting

Speaker 22: the United States into war with Iran. I

agree

Speaker 13: with that. I completely agree. I don't think Netanyahu is a force for good in this world, and I think that he

Speaker 14: should be removed from power. I don't think he's led Israel into a greater place for anybody, for the Israelis, for the It's hard to argue how anyone's better off because of his leadership. How many world wars has he started at this point? So yeah, no, I agree that Netanyahu's not great, but his motives

Speaker 13: here are not what they appear on the surface. And I think you're probably right that he's virtue signaling. I think he probably, well, he might know, he must know

Speaker 23: that he doesn't have the authority to do this, but it sure sounds good on paper. And it's just crazy though that, There are so many Jews

Speaker 24: in New York, you know, that is the biggest Jewish population outside of Israel. There's over a million Jews in New York. And I think 60% of them, I think

Speaker 25: voted for Cuomo. And astonishingly, I think 30% voted for Mamdani. I mean, I guess you get what you vote for, but polls have shown that the people who did vote for him are afraid

Speaker 13: of the rising anti-Semitism in the city. And I have Jewish friends who told me about that. One has a daughter in Boulder, Colorado, where I went to school. And she was a

Speaker 14: hardcore lefty when she went in there. And after all this stuff that's happened in the last two years, she's switching sides. She said she can't believe how much people hate Jews for all this stuff that's happening in

Speaker 13: the media. So, yeah, I think that this is an incredible, incredible story. And I would I'd love to see President Trump bring Netanyahu and parade him around just to go Mamdani

Speaker 26: and say, you know, you have no power here. You can talk a big game, but you have no power

I'd be fine if

Speaker 22: Trump paraded Netanyahu right into a jail cell himself, frankly. I

Speaker 6: wanted to, before we move on, I want to get your perspective on one point on how this is

Speaker 4: all playing out in the war. I had a guest come on my program and note that some of the hardliners in Israel are saying that they're not taking part in this portion of the U.S. campaign against Iran, and the concern with that

Is

Speaker 4: that they may be planning something of their own that is entirely separate and independent. And if Israel believes that this bombing campaign of the United States that is relentless and effective at destroying infrastructure and military material, but not effective at regime change, if they don't think that's enough to send Iran into

Speaker 5: chaos, they may use the nuclear weapon we all know they have. Yeah

I

Speaker 5: shudder to think that. I would like to believe

Speaker 8: that no country would do that again. And so I'm not of that ilk yet, but the argument was made. I'd love to know your perspective

Speaker 27: I mean, I hadn't heard that

Speaker 13: but that is terrifying. And there's no, you know, Iran doesn't have the nuke. We know that. And so that would be a one sided conflict

Speaker 17: Iran, Israel could drop it. And what would the consequences be

Is the

Speaker 17: U.S. going to bomb Israel

I

Speaker 17: mean, how is that going to shake out? Who's going to hold them accountable for that? That's not

that I

Speaker 17: don't think Israel wouldn't do

Speaker 13: it. I mean, they have their pathological hatred of Iran and they want to take that region out and they have the greater Israel objective. So I think they, for sure, from a philosophical standpoint, they wouldn't have a problem with it. But God, what would the consequences be? What

Speaker 17: would the fallout be? Not metaphorically, what would it actually be? I can't

fathom. No, let's

Speaker 28: hope we don't get there. What do you have next for us? So

next

Speaker 17: up, I wanted to talk about one of my dear old friends, Anthony Fauci, the FBI and Peter Daszak, because they made the news. And it's just been an incredible story that I feel like kind of got covered up a little bit. Yes. "Biden's FBI," the headline is that, "Biden's

Speaker 29: FBI prevented Customs and Border Patrol "from searching and questioning Peter Daszak "on his return trip from China." So we have Rand Paul who released federal documents showing the FBI intervened and refused US Customs and Border Patrol from searching and questioning Daszak upon his return trip from China. "The documents highlight the NIH had asked Daszak "to retrieve the original type specimen used "for the Wuhan Institute of Virology "for genetic analysis and return it to the U.S." So they wanted him to bring back the virus that he supposedly used for his gain-of-function research that he wasn't doing

The

Speaker 29: Border Patrol officials plan to question Daszak on his activities in China, his contacts at the virology center, and whether he

Speaker 24: illegally collected or carried biological samples. They were ready to interview him. They had everything set. They had questions

Speaker 29: ready. They were going to pick him up, and three days before he was set to come back, the

Speaker 17: FBI, New York's FBI, locked him down and said, "Nope, you can't touch him. Let him go." Dr. Andrew Huff, who worked

Speaker 29: for DASIC at the EcoHealth Alliance, provided proof to Congress that the COVID virus was created in a

Speaker 24: Wuhan laboratory. In 2016, DASIC explained how scientists could create a virus in a Chinese lab, could create a COVID virus to institute a worldwide

Speaker 29: pandemic

and

Speaker 29: then he's the guy at the center of all this, and suddenly he gets shut down on

his way

Speaker 29: back to the United States by the FBI. I

Speaker 24: mean, it's just, it's incredible. Oh, and remember, Tulsi Gabbard, she's the one who published documents showing that Fauci spent millions of taxpayer dollars funding gain-of-function research. And he officially told the Congress that never happened. So all of this is just astonishing. We have so much evidence, so much proof that these people were just, literally mad scientists bent on world domination and they're getting away with it where are the arrests i that's just i don't understand matt where

Speaker 30: are the arrests of these people

well fauci got this

Speaker 31: auto pen pardon and i think he may have been subject to some criminal

Speaker 6: process in the absence of that but look i want to get into the fbi's involvement here pearson because the fbi getting involved in a legitimate border screening of peter Daszak, that only means one of two things. Either Daszak was involved

Speaker 4: in an ongoing FBI investigation, and that's why they didn't want the investigation harmed, or the FBI was explicitly involved in a cover-up because Daszak was the inside man. He was the guy who was administering the Fauci funds. And you want to see how the mainstream media wrapped their arms around this guy? I remember - Sure, exactly

the night I was

Speaker 4: I went on Tucker Carlson's program and I showcased how the Wuhan Institute of Virology had been subject to these concerns about their safety and their protocols, about how all of this research was going on there. And, oh, my gosh, 60 Minutes did this big special that

Speaker 32: Tucker Carlson and I were crazy conspiracy theorists, that Daszak was a hero, that it was Peter Daszak who would be the one that would save

Speaker 4: us one day from global pandemics. And we were getting in the way of research and it was

all fake and it was all

Speaker 4: So there is a, there is maybe

a

Speaker 3: legitimate reason if the FBI, and I will give this to Christopher Wray, the FBI before anyone else

Speaker 4: came out and said this was a lab leak. While you had other entities in government, while you had the White House. While you had Fauci trying to cover for Daszak the FBI said this was a lab leak and maybe just maybe that FBI investigation was ongoing I certainly hope that's the case because the alternative that they were literally running cover for

Speaker 5: a Just a crime against humanity is is difficult to fathom. I

Speaker 17: mean I

Want to believe

Speaker 17: that but honestly Matt everything we know about what's happened the last few years is how much

Speaker 19: the FBI covered up for

Speaker 23: Biden and all of those people. Like specifically, all the documents it showed, they literally covered up the

Speaker 24: information they had to protect Biden and his family. And come after us, by the way, at OAN. I mean, it's a separate subject, but just showing how corrupt this agency is. If they've had this information

What

Speaker 24: are they doing with it? You know, if Cash Patel has some big smoking gun, if he has the evidence, why aren't we getting it? I just can't believe they would have this and do nothing with it. None of these people are being held accountable. Yeah, Fauci may have the out-open gold shield, but the other people don't. Well

I would, in Cash's

Speaker 34: defense, say he's the one

Speaker 5: who found the burn bags

right

Speaker 5: He's the one who has cleared out the FBI of a lot of the people who are involved in this. And you can say whatever, set whatever rules you want. If you have people like James Comey, Christopher Wray, and their minions at the FBI, it becomes very difficult to get justice under any rules, under any

Speaker 4: protocols. So I'm not as harsh on the judgment of cash. I do think we have to get answers about this. We have to know what the FBI knew and when. And if the FBI opens the kimono a

Speaker 6: little bit and shows us the nature of that process, I think we'll get to the bottom of the depths of the

Speaker 3: cover-up. But look, even to your point, even if the FBI wasn't involved in the cover-up, a whole heck

of a

Speaker 3: lot of the rest of the government was. And that emanated out of the White House because they didn't care what the cause

Speaker 4: was. They cared about the effect. And the effect was it increased their levers of control. The most telling moment in the entire COVID experience was when the whip of the House Majority at the time, Jim Clyburn, said we can use this. We can use this. COVID to accomplish our goals and I regret to say it was an effective strategy for a time

Speaker 15: Yeah, never let a good disaster go to waste. I think that's their motto but

Speaker 14: Continuing the theme of our government lying to us and specifically the FBI we have Trump's announcement last week

and

Speaker 14: about the election security in America or rather lack of security. And talking about how our intelligence agencies, specifically senior

Speaker 19: officials at the CIA and the FBI, withheld his presidential memos, his information to him on a daily basis, trying to keep him out in the dark about what was happening with China. The CIA confirmed the Chinese government hacked over 220 million files of voter registration data for more than a dozen states in 2020. The unveiled documents indicate that China meddled in the race, compromising voter files of millions of Americans and senior officials

the

Speaker 29: CIA and FBI privately expressed reluctance to elevate the intelligence about Chinese hacking to Trump because he could use it to his advantage on the campaign

trail. One email

Speaker 29: among intelligence analysts admitted that they had deliberately massaged the presidential daily briefing to withhold

Speaker 19: information regarding Chinese activities related to the election. Matt, what do you think about that

Speaker 36: Treason. It's abject treason that these underlings, these

Speaker 4: bureaucrats put themselves into the power of the presidency. That's not for them to decide. Nobody elected some, you know, counselor at

Speaker 5: the CIA or FBI. or DNI's office to be able to do this screening. So I think President Trump was correctly indignant about all of this, and what I saw in that speech was a

Speaker 4: field general, and he was commanding his colonels. He was saying, State Department, I need this out of you. Justice Department, I need this. Homeland Security, this is your part. So he struck me as a guy in full

Speaker 37: command in the moment giving that speech

but

Speaker 37: Uh, where's the congressional reaction, right? Are you, I am shocked that following that speech, there was not an immediate, uh, effort, a task force, a suite of bills brought to

Speaker 4: the floor. And there are good bills. Kat Kamek of Florida has a really good bill that would limit Chinese influence. There are things we could put in law so that states that are providing their information about voter rolls, uh, are, are, are not rewarded for that decision to work against

American

Speaker 4: democracy with the distribution of federal funds so there are good ideas and if i were the speaker or the majority leader in the house i would be saying okay we gotta we gotta drop everything we gotta take what president trump

Speaker 32: said and we gotta start devising some bipartisan prescriptions for this you know pearson in florida i remember when we were the embarrassment of the country when we had the hanging chads and the dimpled chads and

Speaker 37: the pimpled chads And you know what? Democrats, Democrats made the demand for paper ballots, for a human being marking the ballot, for chain of custody on the ballots, for preservation of those ballots so they all aren't just wiped away and subject to computer code. Democrats forced that. And you know what we said as Republicans? Those are good ideas. Democrats didn't have power at the time. We had power. But we said, actually, you know what, that's probably good for everybody if we do those things

Speaker 4: And so there are ideas here that should bring Republicans and Democrats together. I mean, there have been warnings about our elections that have come from the likes of Elizabeth Warren, the likes of Amy Klobuchar. And I think that there ought to be a

Speaker 38: patriotic Drive to do what the president called us to do. I

Speaker 13: mean there should but you said you were surprised by this and I just I mean Are you really are you really surprised

Speaker 17: that Congress didn't react to this because Trump has had a solution to this problem For the last six months that he's been trying to get past and Congress. Yeah, well Congress has done, you know, their part More or less, you know, not not enthusiastically, but they

Speaker 24: will not the Senate. Yeah, but not the Senate

and

Speaker 24: And so you have Republicans that just, they don't really care, man. This is, this is status quo. They want to keep it going. And we've got

Speaker 29: 190,000 illegals registered to vote in California. And I'm sure that's a low number. I'm sure it's much higher than that. 35,000 non-citizens registered

Speaker 41: That might just be LA County. Oh

Speaker 29: yeah. Yeah. One part, like one precinct in LA County, you know, 15,000 non-citizens in Nevada, 14,000 non-citizens registered in Pennsylvania, that's over

Speaker 24: 278,000 illegal voters have been discovered in state voter rolls. And again, I bet that's small. I bet that's way small. But even if it weren't, 278,000, that's massive. I mean, 2020, what did Trump lose Georgia by? It was like 11,000 votes. What did he lose Arizona by? Like 10,000? - Yeah

less

Speaker 24: Like, that's the election right there. Michigan, all these swing states, that's the election. And

Speaker 29: you have

You

Speaker 29: have people like, what was her name, she's the Michigan Senator Elisa Slotkin, Elisa Slotkin, I'm sure you saw that clip

Speaker 24: where she flat out admitted that going back to widespread analog voting, like in person with ID in a paper ballot, that kind of thing, that would rig our democracy and make it hard for any Democrat to win in any state election

this is

Speaker 24: what they want, man. This is exactly what they want. So it doesn't surprise me that that Congress isn't jumping up in arms about this thing. Like they've got what they want

It has parallels to what

Speaker 7: we're seeing in Latin America. You

Speaker 5: notice the left hasn't won a single election in Latin America since we got rid of USAID. And in fact, in Nicaragua, they're so certain that they

Speaker 3: would lose an election. The Ortega regime, they just canceled Yeah, yeah. - If you still

have

Speaker 3: had USAID up and running, they would be doing fake elections in Nicaragua, and they would have U.S. government help to do it. And I think, just to finish the point, that there may be some

Speaker 8: Democrats who think, well, look, if this is all just a fair game, we will always lose. And so they are willing to allow the abscessed wound to

Speaker 37: create more problems for the body politic. But, I mean, I remember

Speaker 7: watching, as a congressman, you on this network doing reports on the risk. of illegal alien voting and the vulnerabilities in our system that allow illegal alien voting. And you were labeled a conspiracy theorist. We were demonetized, de-platformed, just for making those arguments. Now

Speaker 37: the thing we were told never happened, the governor of New Jersey has just admitted

Speaker 44: it happened 6,600 times. Illegal aliens voted 6,600 times in New Jersey. So congratulations on your vindication

Speaker 14: Pearson. - Thank you. "Feels good, warms the cockles of my cold dead heart." They keep

Speaker 19: saying it never happens, but the thing that never happens keeps happening. And I also wanna mention about USAID. Interesting side point, not only have all these conservatives been winning in South America, Latin America, but also since USAID was taken down, not a single rap song has charted in the top

100. A lot

Speaker 45: of people pointed that out. So that's interesting

to think about

Speaker 46: Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're saying USAID was propping up rap

Yeah, I mean

Speaker 29: I could believe it. I could believe it. It's subversive to the culture. It promotes a lot of degenerate things and

Speaker 47: that's destructive to the American way of life. So sure, I could believe that they wanted to pop that up

Look

Speaker 47: at all the other stuff they were funding, the degenerate things in South America, the sex changes for minors, the gay operas in Ireland, all that other kind of stuff. I could totally believe they were propping up rap. I

Speaker 48: mean, have you listened to it? It's horrible. It's horrible. So, sure, that would make sense to me. It's beside the point. I

Speaker 44: think we talked about this in the last episode. I'm not a big rap

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Well, there's

Speaker 25: something else I wanted to get your take on. We don't have to go too deep into it, but

Speaker 19: you being a former member of Congress, have you heard the news that

Speaker 14: Congress is apparently too small? And that it's not just a leftist talking point anymore. People want to expand Congress. Have you heard about this

I

Speaker 7: have. I would shrink Congress. Yes. I think we actually need fewer members, not

Speaker 8: more. I don't know that a body of 435 accomplishes much. And oftentimes

Speaker 4: it results in a lot of mouths to feed

Speaker 49: So I don't know that we've right-sized Congress. I would be happy if it were smaller

Speaker 50: Yeah, I mean, I would too. Yeah. apparently from 1930 to 2020

the

Speaker 14: US population rose from 123 million over 331. And so people are arguing that

you know, the

Speaker 14: 435 seat just doesn't make sense because

Speaker 19: you know, we have so many more people now and when they need more representation, they want to increase the size of the house from 435 to

Speaker 29: 585

after

Speaker 29: the 2030th census and not only add 138 more seats but establish

Speaker 19: a 12 at large u.s senate seat i'm not sure exactly what that means what does that mean at large u.s senate seat

well that means everyone in the

Speaker 28: country gets to vote

Speaker 8: they want to they

want a

Speaker 8: national popular vote uh for any election but pearson how much of this do you think is

Speaker 6: because uh in most of the reapportionments that we're seeing, blue states like New York York and Michigan are

Speaker 32: getting fewer congressmen and red states like Florida and Texas are getting more congressmen. And so instead of actually earning back your citizens

Speaker 5: instead of creating policies where people are safe and prosperous and people want to be in your communities, well, the easier thing is just to keep your congressional seat by increasing the number. That's so crazy

Speaker 51: We see them do that across the board. I mean, they can't

Speaker 23: win U.S. elections with American citizens voting, so they bring in illegal aliens to vote for them

uh

Speaker 23: they can't win at the supreme court so they just expand the supreme court um they want to add more states you know let's get puerto rico in there let's make dc a state make congress bigger so it seems to me though the the obvious downside of this is that if we

add more

Speaker 23: seats for more representation that representation would exist in like heavily democrat areas because the cities are the biggest you know the biggest hot spots so that's just a blatant grab for more seats. I mean, is that that's how it would

work

Speaker 23: right you'd have more seats in san diego more seats in in los angeles more

Speaker 47: seats in all these major cities in new york so you know the red states the rural people they wouldn't get more representation it'd be more representation for the blue states that's how

it would work right - Yeah

Speaker 52: this is the antidote to people, legitimate

Speaker 5: voters leaving cities for the Democrats. This is what they think helps them continue to create a buoyant universe of crazy people in our law-making bodies despite the policies in a lot of these blue jurisdictions driving people

Speaker 13: out. - Yeah, yeah, it just blows my mind that people think that that's the solution. One more thing I wanna

Speaker 50: get

to, We've

Speaker 50: got an incredible story about this blue-haired tranny who had a meltdown, flipped out on

a

Speaker 19: cop for misgendering him. This was a Florida student. Good job, Florida. Melted down over pronouns during a police call and left the scene in handcuffed. Body footage released on Friday captures the February 2025 encounter at the University of Central Florida. A campus officer working a vehicle theft report encountered a screaming student In a blue

Speaker 50: wig, of course, the student in the footage is identified as 27-year-old Jarrett Vick of Treasure Island. Let's watch the clip because it's just absolutely

Speaker 14: unbelievable

Speaker 53: Why do you let those kids get away with this? They are not supposed to be here

Speaker 54: If you don't lower your voice, I

am

Speaker 55: going to put handcuffs on you. Try it. Are you threatening

me

Speaker 57: You're threatening me. Can

we

Speaker 55: get another unit to deal with Jay

Speaker 58: Lee here? He is having a breakdown

Speaker 57: Say! Say! Just

say the

Speaker 59: right pronoun! What did

Speaker 60: you say? 73-51

Speaker 61: Get down on the ground

Speaker 62: right now

Speaker 63: No! No, please! You're

Speaker 60: about to get sprayed

Speaker 64: No

Speaker 63: just let me alone! Get down on the ground right now. Leave me alone! I can

Speaker 66: come in there. Leave me alone, please! Get away! You don't tell me where to go

Speaker 67: Let me stop

F***, f***, f

Is that

Speaker 6: what's coming to a drag brunch near you, Pearson? Is that the next performance we're getting from the California school

Speaker 7: district for children to come observe? Wait, is law enforcement not hard enough? Like is it not hard enough to be a cop, particularly a campus cop in Florida, of all places, without having someone absolutely lose their mind on you over pronouns? And by the way

like

Speaker 7: For all of those in the transsexual

Speaker 5: community trying to tell us this is not a mental health issue, why then do we see this type of crazy behavior directly align with this life choice? Everywhere. It is – you know

Speaker 9: what? Yeah, it's totally going to happen to you the next time you misgender a barista at Starbucks. They're going to start screaming at you just

Speaker 70: like that. Wouldn't you love that ability, though, just like

Y

Speaker 70: You know, they start screaming, you just whip out the pepper spray, ah, ah, ah. I almost felt like the cop was enjoying himself there, it seemed like he was almost laughing, just like the insanity of this person. And he got to like pull out the pepper spray. He tasered him later in the video

It's just

Speaker 71: incredible to watch. - No. - Yeah, he did. The guy just wouldn't listen. It's amazing

well and

Speaker 8: this is by the way the thing about transsexuals that has them in this unique posture in our in our uh lexicon now yeah look

if you want

Speaker 8: to go dress up like a woman on your own time and on your own time do it i don't want to pay for your sex surgery you definitely shouldn't be around

Speaker 7: children uh doing that stuff but uh you know what i i am not here to judge that choice the issue is

Speaker 37: they want to conscript the rest of us right if you want to If you want to go dress in a dress or do whatever, do it. But that doesn't mean

Speaker 73: that we, as a part of the social compact, have to join you in this delusion

Speaker 74: Y

Speaker 47: Yeah, yeah, the majority has to cater to the minority. It's, these people are

Speaker 14: it's narcissists. You know, this is a classic narcissist tactic. And the world revolves around them. Everything has to be ordered exactly as they perceive it. And when it's not, you know

then You

Speaker 14: have the generation that was never spanked reacting in a way that they have no boundaries. They've been encouraged to behave this way. So yeah, I just thought it was an incredible video and it's making the rounds. But the thing that I really wanted to talk about tonight was the film that we've got coming out tomorrow

Speaker 17: Yes. - It's called The American Dream, the story of Robert Herring. And I've

Speaker 14: had the privilege and the honor

to

Speaker 14: work on this film for the last few months, chronicling Robert Herring's life. He is an absolutely extraordinary individual, literally the definition of the American dream. There was no other title for this piece. He rose from abject poverty, a man who was actually born

Speaker 20: inside a barn. That's not a metaphor. And he's gone on to create

you

Speaker 14: know, this lasting media empire. It's just astonishing what he has done

And

Speaker 14: I've been here for 12 years at OAN and getting to work with him over that time period has been really eye-opening, but still working on this documentary, there were things I didn't know. And when I sit down and I talk to him now, especially after having done it, like he's just this quiet, humble man, ready to laugh at a moment's notice. And it's hard to believe that this is the guy sitting here who has done all these things. So it's really humbling to have gotten to work on this and to see behind what it took to create this company, to create One America News. I'm

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Speaker 8: really we wouldn't be here without him and uh that is no understatement uh i can't wait to see the film but pearson what have you got

Speaker 79: for us to to preview so

Speaker 80: we've got a clip uh opening up and uh just kind of talking about the the early years of robert's life we can play that now

Robert

Speaker 81: Herring grew up in Louisiana, in a small town where life was simple

Speaker 82: but not always easy. His father, Alfred Herring, had served as a private in the Army during World War I. By the time that Robert was born, Alfred was doing whatever work he could find to support his family. Robert had a brother and two sisters, and the family scratched out a living as best they could. When Robert got old enough, he started hunting for food — rabbits

Speaker 83: birds, raccoons

Speaker 84: anything he could catch to help feed the family

Speaker 85: He didn't have much growing up. He lived in Louisiana. He lived off the land a lot. He ate crawdads, squirrels he said

Speaker 86: he hunted, pickled pigs' feet, things along those lines. Very poor at the time

Speaker 87: When Robert's

Speaker 82: sister's health took a turn for the worse, the doctor recommended they move to a drier climate, like California. But the family couldn't afford to leave together. So Alfred got on the back of a truck and hitched a ride out west by himself, looking for work. Eventually, he found a job with an oil company in the Central Valley and sent money back home to Louisiana. Around 1948, when Robert was about seven years old, the family finally saved enough

Speaker 83: to join him. They boarded a train and headed out to Bakersfield. You

know, Pearson, when I see that, I

Speaker 89: think of all the conversations I've had with

Speaker 6: Mr. Herring about the opportunity that still exists in California. And you and I go on our programs and we regularly talk about the high taxes, and the terrible governor and the bad decisions the state has made over many years. But Mr. H has a way to focus us and say, no, this is still a place where great things can happen. This is still a place where we can build things and make things and grow things

And

Speaker 6: even to this day, this man

Speaker 4: you know, in the later stages of life, is able to draw on those moments where his family came to the Golden State with

Speaker 90: nothing and built an empire

He

Speaker 91: still, when you talk to him, he still says, you know, there are so many ways to make money

Speaker 20: in America. And, you know

Speaker 17: I wish I had, you know, just half, a quarter of that kind of vision that he has. Oh

Speaker 92: yeah

Speaker 17: building this out of

Speaker 14: nothing. It's incredible and I, you know, we talk about kids going hungry in

Speaker 20: America. That's like one of the big liberal talking points and how can Trump let that happen and how should any child go hungry in America? And I just, I find it hard to believe that we have children in America today who are on their hands and knees on a muddy bank of a river catching crawfish to eat because they can't get food any other

way. You

Speaker 20: know, there are so many programs to take care of people today and there should be, you know, people who need help. Oh, sure. But to compare that with what he went through, I mean, I guess you shouldn't try and compare suffering, suffering, suffering. But it's just astonishing that that was a way of life and it wasn't, you know, he wasn't unique in that. There was a lot of people at that time period coming out of the Dust Bowl, the Depression, World War II, who were literally starving and trying to eat crazy. crawfish to

Speaker 23: survive it's incredible you know being five years old and helping hunt you know ducks and fish and whatever you can to feed your family i

can't imagine

Speaker 94: that i don't think

Speaker 6: anybody do you think grit is dead in america because you're telling the story of incredible grit and you're right it wasn't while mr herring's story is unique grit as a feature of american life wasn't unique at that time there were a lot of people who were building things out of nothing

Speaker 4: And do you see that same trait? It's certainly not at the same concentration. It seems to have

Speaker 95: diminished greatly. I'm

Speaker 25: sure there are, you know, people with grit. But I think, you

Speaker 20: know, the forge creates the steel. The environment makes the man. And I don't think we have the same types of circumstances today. The hardship, you know, you need real hardship to create that kind of true grit. And when

Speaker 14: I look at that and compare my life to his, I've had such a soft life, such a comfy, cozy, soft life. And I

Speaker 13: admire that grit, but I don't know that I wanna go through the hardship to get it

you know

Speaker 13: And that's probably a personal failing on my part

But it's

Speaker 96: just incredible that people did

Speaker 14: that

back then

Speaker 14: Yeah. - We've got another clip of some of the early jobs that he did because

he, you know

Speaker 14: He pulled himself up by his bootstraps and he did everything on his own and he did a lot of different jobs, a lot of crazy jobs, so

Speaker 20: we

Speaker 98: can watch

that one. I

Speaker 98: remember weekends going to church and then afterwards it would allow us

Speaker 99: to

go on

Speaker 99: a pony ride and then we'd get hamburgers and I remember cutting it in fours, there was four of us children and having hamburgers on the weekend. So you had to share a single hamburger? At the times, at times, yes. So times were tough

They

Speaker 99: probably would be tough in other people's eyes. In our

eyes, I

Speaker 99: don't think it was tough. We didn't

Speaker 100: realize it. - Robert

Speaker 82: worked as a milkman. He found work at Sears, he made gas ranges, delivered turkeys around Thanksgiving, and took whatever

Speaker 101: job he could find

Speaker 102: And I can remember driving on the weekends like Thanksgiving and stuff

Speaker 103: and delivering turkeys

Like

Speaker 103: all us four would be in the car and we would deliver turkeys to customers. You name

Speaker 104: it, I've done just about everything that you can

Speaker 105: think of

Pearson, did Mr. H invent the

Speaker 106: gig economy? He

might have been one of the

Speaker 13: early pioneers. Yeah

I

Speaker 8: tell you, it is such a wide array of experiences. How do you think delivering turkeys, being a milkman, hunting for food prepares someone to run a national news organization? Because

it

Speaker 91: teaches you the value of hard work, and I think that's something a lot of people have missed today. He's not

Speaker 14: afraid to get his hands dirty, and a lot of people are

Speaker 14: Nothing is beneath him and like, there's no job too small. Like, you know, when he was working on his circuit

Speaker 20: board factories, he would get out there and help clean the floors with the janitors. Like, you know, he's not too good for that. You know, he's, everybody's important. Everybody matters and every job is important because he understands that because he did them all, you know? He started, one of his first

Speaker 23: jobs was cleaning chicken eggs

And

Speaker 23: the machines they would use to clean the chicken eggs would spray manure all over the place, like all over

Speaker 20: his face. He told me that story. So like when you start cleaning chicken eggs and you get chicken crap all over your face, I think that does something to you

Speaker 23: I think that teaches you a lesson that you can't learn really any other

way

Speaker 32: Pearson, you were here at this network during

Speaker 6: some of the really challenging days, during the Biden administration, where you had members of Congress trying to get you kicked off the air. When you did reasonable reporting, people tried to demonetize, de-platform. And a lot of other organizations, I think, would have folded up the tent. Certainly, Mr. Herring had made enough

Speaker 4: money in his life. His family was fine and well off. But there was a sense of mission, almost... Almost irrational from a pure business sense, but a sense of true mission in Mr. Herring's life. And without it, we simply wouldn't exist today. How much of what we've gone through in our

Speaker 5: hard days do you think had Mr. Herring drawing on other challenges he'd gone through in his life and preparing him for what very few in modern media could have ever endured

Speaker 107: It's who he is. He doesn't know the word quit. He's a little bulldog, you know? He's always been the underdog from the day he was born until now

Speaker 20: You know, he's always been the guy who was fighting on the outside to make things happen. And I think he took it as one, an insult that these people were coming after him. You know, that was a slap in his face. That was a tarnish on his honor to accuse him of doing these things. And to walk away from that is letting someone impugn you. How can you stand for that when you know you were doing the right thing? And

Speaker 23: so, yeah, he looked at it as a personal challenge and he just, he wasn't going to give up. He just, he never has and he never will. And

I

Speaker 14: think that's actually a good segue for the next clip because there was a point when he got started with the circuit board business, which is where he kicked off basically

his

Speaker 14: big business growth period where the family was homeless. I mean, they were literally

Speaker 107: homeless. You can watch that

clip

Speaker 82: Wow. Yet Robert was now on the hook for two grand a month, and on top of that, he'd sold his family's house to buy a failing business. His confidence was so great that his family was now literally homeless. So Robert found a solution

Speaker 100: They moved into the shop. There was days I

Speaker 98: remember that he did sell the house. We actually lived at the board shop for a small period of time. Sleeping bags and stuff in the offices. And then we'd

Speaker 99: go back in the laboratory to have bunsen burners and little cooking things that they would cook food for us. But yeah, there was nothing that could stop him

Speaker 5: I... That has a sense of all-in that is also rare in today's world. Everything is about the hedge. Everything

Speaker 6: is about protecting your flank. And some of the greats, even people we might not agree with politically, in Silicon Valley, there's a certain thing where when you believe in something and you just are all-in, whether it's family, business, faith

Speaker 8: uh really an incredible an incredible thing was that something you'd know i've never until this moment i did not know that pearson that

Speaker 4: mr herring made that kind of a familial sacrifice because he knew it would lead to better horizons no i i

Speaker 108: discovered that when we were working on the documentary i mean there's so much i learned about him doing this wow like

There

Speaker 108: are decisions. I

Speaker 109: have to make for my family

Speaker 110: where it's like well, I don't know if we should do that Can we afford that right now? Maybe we shouldn't you know

Speaker 23: Robert

like I

Speaker 23: don't want to say he didn't look before he leaped but he always knew that he was gonna land on his feet and

Speaker 20: so he jumped anyway and Like that that confidence is just

Speaker 14: awe-inspiring I There's one more clip I want to play before we get to the end of the show about

Speaker 80: how we got OAN started at the very beginning. Let's play that one

It was somewhere around towards

Speaker 111: the end of 2012. Maybe it

was the beginning of

Speaker 112: 2013. And I got pulled into a meeting with Mr

H and

Speaker 112: Charles, Bobby, maybe a couple other

Speaker 113: guys. And they said

Hey

Speaker 113: What do you guys think? We want to start a news

network." I said, "Let's do it

Speaker 113: We had no name, no elements, no anything, but an idea

Speaker 82: From concept to launch, Herring Networks had only months to build a studio, a newsroom, edit bays, hire staff, buy equipment, and train everyone for air

A

Speaker 112: lot of problem-solving. Mr. H isn't one for doing things traditionally from a business standpoint. And so we were jumping into uncharted territory. We hadn't

run a

Speaker 112: news network before, so we were

Speaker 114: figuring things out on the

fly. You

Speaker 8: know, that story reminds me of Mr. Herring sharing with me that in the final moments of

Speaker 6: doing the business side of the deal that put OAN on the air, there had been term sheets back and forth and disagreements, and

Speaker 8: it was Mr. H who walked right in to the head shed. And presented the business case for OAN, closed the

Speaker 9: deal, and then we add revenue to go out and tell the important stories that were happening around the

Speaker 115: country

Speaker 26: Yeah. Yeah. He negotiated. He got it off the ground. It was his vision. It was, you know, again, it was

quit

Speaker 20: doesn't exist. No is not an option. Just let's make a news channel. And then he did it

So

Speaker 17: how can you fathom that? That's just I mean, that's the kind of entrepreneurial visionary that we just we don't really have anymore. It's it's

really

Speaker 23: incredible. Well

the

Speaker 116: man loves the news. He does. He loves it. I

Speaker 5: mean, I don't think there's been a single day where I've beat him into the office and he is he is already seeing to this day what is in print media, what he can find online, what videos are driving discussion

Speaker 4: He makes suggestions regularly to our programs. uh, about things that are interesting to him, uh, that he, that he sees in the

Speaker 5: headlines. And, you know, it is, there was a whole generation of these guys, Pearson

Speaker 6: you know, the Ted Turner, the Rupert Murdoch, the Roger Ailes. And it's kind of, uh, not repeated, you know, in the tech bros that are

Speaker 9: running the information space that are more of the Gen X or millennial type. These, these

Speaker 5: baby boomer titans, uh, of industry just had a, had a strong drive on, on how they did it. and Mr. H

is a

Speaker 5: his imprint is all over the news. And I think that OAN, even from that time

Speaker 117: to today, fills just such an important role in the information ecosystem. Yeah

Speaker 107: yeah, I completely agree

Speaker 14: There's nobody else like us out there. So the film's going to be premiering tomorrow at a cinema in Del Mar, and I hope you'll be there. And we're going to have, I'm not sure what the distribution

Speaker 118: is going to be after that, but it'll be available for everybody to watch, and we'll get it out there

Yeah

Speaker 8: it's on our social media, I believe, right? Can you point people to where to see it there, Pearson

Speaker 119: Yeah, I shared the link

Speaker 14: on my X page, and Bobby Herring shared it on his page, and I believe we're going to be putting it on the official OAN account, but that's to be decided right now. So we'll get it out there, but

Speaker 108: yeah, it should be premiering tomorrow and then very soon afterwards everywhere else

can't

Speaker 9: wait it's an incredible story uh it is a story that that conditions the human spirit for better things

ahead

Speaker 120: yeah it needs to be told and

Speaker 20: i think that is it for the hour that wraps us up so tune in again next week when hopefully you'll be back back in town

I'll see you

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