Matt Gaetz — The Anchormen Show EP 151 - Point of No Return

Speaker 2: now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and pearson

Speaker 3: sharp

Welcome

Speaker 4: back to another episode of Anchorman. This is the show where I kick it with my homies here at One America News. My forever co-host, Pearson Sharp, host of The Sharp Report. Also quite the documentarian and filmmaker. A number of projects over these last couple years. - Thank you, I appreciate it. - That are incredible and our hot new primetime show, David Pollack Primetime. David Pollack, the man that comes after the Matt Gaetz show at 9:00

So I

Speaker 4: am officially

Speaker 6: the warm-up act for David Pollack Primetime. Loving it. Loving seeing how somebody

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Speaker 8: reporting. It's an awesome

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Speaker 10: also have some intelligent thoughts and you're fully informed watching this network all night and you won't

Speaker 12: get

Speaker 13: that watching me Well, I'll get

Speaker 14: an intelligent take or walk away feeling

Speaker 13: you get a take though. You get it. You feel radicalized Yeah

Speaker 14: that's

Speaker 15: really the sharp is now what you would call an entertainer He is an investigative journalist and a

Speaker 16: great one, but Pearson

Speaker 17: here's where where I want to get your take on something David and I were kicking around You know, we're well into this

Speaker 4: primary season. We got a general election in November, which is like less than a hundred days away

At what

Speaker 18: point do we have to stop the circular firing squad and say, okay, you know, we're mad at John Thune. We're mad at Mitch McConnell or

Speaker 19: whatever's left of him, but we're going into contrast mode with the Democrats. Do you think there's

Speaker 20: ever a time, you know, in that window before the election where you've got to

Speaker 7: have that kind of a sharpened focus or no, this is a movement that needs constant policing. This is a party that can and often is led by the wrong people and criticism of your fellow Republicans takes no days off. Where do you stand on this? It's

Speaker 21: so tough to make a call on that because

we have

Speaker 21: to defeat the Democrats. and that means voting for

Speaker 22: republicans but that means voting for republicans who by and large act like democrats

and that's

Speaker 22: not really a great place to leave the american voter i mean we voted for mass deportations we voted for a better economy voted for all these things and these republicans

Speaker 23: that we have in office are hamstringing us left and right or it's the judges you know one or the other but we don't have a lot of people where we can look at and be like i love what he's doing

you

Speaker 23: know we've got one brandon gill that's it you know

Speaker 24: mike lee's been doing mike lee's great yes on the rick scott in the sentence is is regularly

Speaker 18: so we've got like four or five there's a group there's a group who are okay bobert uh i would say scott

Speaker 26: perry i mean there are people who are fighting but they are fighting against a town that has everything pointed at them

Speaker 27: yeah and so

Speaker 28: what are we supposed to do as voters i mean

N

Speaker 28: No, no, but I'm not asking you as a voter. I'm asking you as a commentator, right? Because what David and I are noticing

Speaker 17: is that there's just so much online now of kind of the right on right political attacks. And we're

Speaker 6: starting to say, gosh, there has to be some moment where we pivot this to the Democrats and they're not in power. They don't have a masthead for us to identify. And so like you as a commentator

And

Speaker 6: does your criticism of Republicans hit

an

Speaker 7: amethyst period before an election? And if so, how long is that period? That's what I want to know from you. And David's going to take the other side. I

think we're in a really

Speaker 22: rough spot. And I'm kind of going to repeat myself a little bit. But I think these Republicans need to be beaten into shape. So your criticism of Republicans

Speaker 29: takes no days off? Well, it really can't. Matt, because otherwise you end up with

Speaker 30: traitors in office. You vote for people who you think are going to do the job right, and they stab you in the back. With Democrats, you know what you're getting. You're getting someone who hates America every single time. But with a Republican, you have

someone who

Speaker 30: stands up there, like Cornyn, and says all the right things, and they get in, and they just screw you left, right

Speaker 31: and center. So we have to do something

Speaker 32: that scares these people. Thank you, John Cornyn, for voting to confirm Todd Blanche. We're very grateful

Speaker 33: to Senator Cornyn for his support. Well, yeah, I was watching that today and

Speaker 29: you know, his whole shenanigan throughout this

Speaker 30: entire confirmation process is just like

you want

Speaker 30: to know why you got primary, John Cornyn? This is why you got primary, because you do stuff like this. You know, you put the voters through things like this. He finally went along with it, but man, he drug us through it. And the rest of them are doing

Speaker 31: the same thing. And so that's why I feel like we need to just beat these people until we have an entire Congress full of Brandon Gills. - We are going to get David's take

Speaker 6: on this. But I'm going to offer you a couple of vignettes here

I

Speaker 6: want you to know how conscious I was of what I was standing in the way of when I moved to vacate Kevin McCarthy as House Speaker. Had

Donald Trump

Speaker 26: been the president at that time, as frustrated

as I was

Speaker 26: with McCarthy

I

Speaker 6: wouldn't have done it. Because you have to know where you are in the wave

And

Speaker 6: if people were going to criticize me for

Speaker 34: gumming up the Congress for a few weeks, well, at least we were slowing the passage of Build Back Better and Biden's infrastructure

Speaker 17: bill. Those weren't things I was really all that eager to get to in the first place

So

Speaker 17: this is an election that is coming

Speaker 6: up that we do have to be concerned about Brandon Gill By the way, had to like you you look at the ones you like and we're gonna love Brandon Herrera out of Texas We're gonna love

Speaker 7: Steve Toth the guy who beat Crenshaw these guys these guys are terrific and there are a few others Sheriff Lamb's gonna be all

Speaker 4: Sheriff Lamb Outstanding so there are gonna be some that we

really like and But

Speaker 4: when Brandon Gill ran, he was going through the interviews that your consultants make you go through to talk about who you are and why you're running. And he sits down in front of this one group, and they say, well, what member of Congress do you emulate? Do you want to be like? And he said, well, I want to be like Matt Gaetz. And he walked out, and that group

Speaker 16: alone spent a million dollars against him because he had identified me. And so we obviously tripled down and helped him. I want to hear your

Speaker 23: take, but you're the insider. You have... you have that unique political acumen to like

Speaker 29: kind of play 4D chess and see where the pieces are ahead of time. I don't have that. You're a scalpel. I'm like a sledgehammer. I just want to, you know, I'm blunt. I just want to break

Speaker 30: things and have them come back together fixed. You see ahead of, and I don't. So when I look at these people who are just screwing up, I'm like, let's fricking fix it. Get these

Speaker 36: people out of there and fix it. Okay, well

Speaker 37: sitting next to you is the Swiss Army knife

Speaker 36: So David Pollack

Speaker 38: lay it out for us. Do we take – Pearson says we take no days off. I'm guessing you're going to say there comes a moment, but let us have it

Speaker 39: This is so complicated, but out of respect for the other people who are going to

Speaker 10: want to talk on this podcast, I'll break it down as simply as I can. I think people are very confused on why America loves Donald Trump. And that's really at the heart of all of this, because the reason why we love Donald Trump, at least personally, and a lot of people that I know love Donald Trump, is because he came down an escalator and said the different things that our political establishment said. He didn't sound like a Polish politician. He stood on the debate stage and he pointed fingers at the Bushes and he pointed fingers at the Chris Christie's of the world and said, we're not doing this again. We're not taking power from one party and giving it back to the other. We're taking power from all of you people and we're giving it back to the American people. President Trump came to power at a very difficult time in America where we had Barack Obama who convinced everyone to vote for him because he was going to heal

Speaker 40: the historical wounds of racism and instead lit the country on fire, reignited racist wounds. He didn't do anything to bring our country together and in fact he was the first step towards socialism legitimately and so the country coming out of Barack Obama was already tearing itself apart. The fake news was in full

Speaker 10: swing

Donald Trump

Speaker 10: Rose to the occasion existed for the moment and that's why he won because he was willing to call attention to an open border He said he wanted to build the wall He was willing to call attention to the political class that didn't do anything for the American people and the only way Donald

Speaker 41: Trump was gonna Be able to be effective was by being Donald Trump and what that means is a wrecking ball. He's gonna call it out He's going to be himself He's going to say what he thinks and he's not gonna apologize for it and that for me as a lifelong Republican who

Speaker 42: voted for boring Republicans my whole life to hear that. I'll admit, the first time when I heard Donald Trump speak, I'm like, woo, that's not gonna last very long. He's done after this, and then

I saw

Speaker 42: the next debate, I'm like, oh, there's no way he's gonna survive this. And then he stayed in the

Speaker 41: center of the stage, debate after debate, and I realized something. I said, oh, wait a minute, this is the Republican we've been hoping for our entire lives. He makes me actually wanna

be Republican

Speaker 43: Yeah, but that's not Pearson's criticism. His criticism is not

Speaker 34: of Trump, his criticism is of

the

Speaker 34: lack of juice that we may be getting because of a lack of Republican effort in the Congress

Speaker 44: But that's the pivot. And the pivot is this. Since Donald Trump surprised the world because everyone was packing

Speaker 41: Hillary Clinton's bags for her to go back to the White House, Republicans have tried to emulate what the media created of Donald Trump. They've tried to emulate the media created version of Donald Trump, not the version that you know it exists because you know him personally, not the version that people who know Donald Trump personally knows how giving how much he values

it

Speaker 41: How much he values people who oppose him, how much he enjoys people disagreeing in front of him. And instead, the media created this monster who was totalitarian and unwilling to listen to anybody. And as a result, the people who wanted to help Donald Trump became the

version of

Speaker 41: Donald Trump that was created in the media. And as a result, we have a lot of attacking, bulldog-minded type people who attack each other. And so to bring this thing full circle, what we're dealing with now in 2024 or 2026, I'm sorry, is you have people who really want to honor Donald Trump. And act like the version of Donald Trump that the media created, but they're missing the most important part of Donald Trump. And that's the guy who's willing to attack, but then when the door is closed, make a deal. We're only seeing the attacking side of Donald Trump being emulated, not the deal-making side. And the point is, there's no tolerance for disagreement in MAGA. If you disagree with one thing in

Speaker 45: MAGA, you're not MAGA. When Donald Trump thrives on people disagreeing with one another. He was attacking Jeanine Pirro today, but I promise you they're going to go have dinner together and she's going to do great stuff and he's going to compliment her later. We shouldn't hang her out to dry just because Donald Trump is upset

Speaker 41: and we shouldn't hang each other out to dry. So to answer your question with respect to what Pearson's saying is... There is a time to turn it off, and it's okay to disagree, but this purity test of MAGA, where we either agree on everything or you're out of the movement, is what's destroying the movement. And so yes, the time to turn it off is three months ago, the time to turn it on as a base is now, and we need to rise up and beat the democratic socialists. So you think we're already in the window

Speaker 45: We're

Speaker 46: past it. Oh wow

Speaker 45: Democratic socialists are winning across this country. Not because they're beating Republicans, it's

Speaker 41: because they're beating other Democrats. And the reason they're beating other Democrats is because our messaging is so all over the place

that

Speaker 45: people don't know the difference anymore. And they're being drawn to the democratic socialists because they sound like we're supposed to. So instead of us tearing each other apart

Speaker 40: we should be providing an alternative message. That doesn't make the Democratic Socialists seem attractive, which is what's happening right now. The Democratic Socialists sound like what we wanted in Donald Trump. Yeah

but if

Speaker 47: we had Republicans who were doing what we wanted them to do, what we elected them to

Speaker 48: do, we wouldn't have people looking for alternatives. But on that, though, what do we want them to do? What do we expect them to do

Fix

Speaker 49: the economy and the border. Who do we expect to do that? so and pearson would

Speaker 50: like his enemies prosecute because no and i agree we all prosecute at least

Speaker 51: the problem is we have 48 i'm in favor of firing swats utah brought that back we have 48 senators right now that are willing to pass the save america at 48 49 if we can put

Speaker 52: if we can wind up mcconnell and shove him out to say right what are

Speaker 45: you counting mitch right so we have 48 republicans 48

Speaker 42: that's a lot and we we we crap on the senate but 48 of them are willing to do the work. We have a very narrow majority in the House, and they've been able to pass the Save America Act six times. So Republicans are actually delivering. We're just not

Speaker 43: telling the story. - I worry that the number of times the Republicans

Speaker 6: have passed the Save America Act in the House right now feels a lot like how often they were willing to vote to repeal Obamacare - Exactly. - Before it was real. - Yeah. - There's a certain

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After

Speaker 55: primary season

We

Speaker 56: are right there at the end of it. Florida's got one of the late primaries. We're going to have that governor's race

Speaker 18: wrapped up. Byron Donalds will win. I think it'll be a great thing for the state. And we will then need to put this to bed. And in September and October, we have

Speaker 7: to go after the Democrats. And there will be plenty of time thereafter to rub each other's noses in our shortcomings and failures

Speaker 6: But... The fact that they are nominating democratic socialists probably means that we have to beat them in general elections. And there is a demoralization of our base that can occur if we subject

our own

Speaker 6: supporters to a never-ending list of purity tests

Speaker 7: And I totally agree with it. And right now there's a lot of foreign policy in the news, so that gets the attention. But here's another one, okay? And it's on our list to discuss today

Speaker 6: It's this push for farm worker amnesty and it is being

Speaker 4: led by dozens of Republicans who are saying what we really need is to create a sanctuary space on every farm in

Speaker 6: America. And my assessment of this is that you are going to have every NGO in the world automatically become a farm

And

Speaker 6: they will be able to rack and stack illegals in this country of every type. Can you imagine that, Pearson? The, you know, the U.S.-Pakistan Friendship Council

Speaker 17: having their farm to bring in whoever and whatever they want to be able to bring in. And they don't have to worry about ICE showing up

Speaker 4: You know, there's a part of me that wants to

I

Speaker 4: just have the Republicans who sponsored this bill on my program

Speaker 17: and excoriate them and blow torch them with facts about how amnesty fails. And I only get to

do that

Speaker 6: for, I guess, another few weeks. But what's your take on the Republican push for farmworker amnesty, Pearson

Speaker 58: Sharp? I

Speaker 59: mean, I did a program on this last week

we

Speaker 59: can't pass the SAVE Act but we can give amnesty

to illegals

Speaker 59: And I know one's in the Senate and one's in the House, but you know how it works. This is, you know, the GOP writ large, their goal is lip service to saving America and then sneaking in things like this, the amnesty bill. Glenn Thompson of Pennsylvania. And by the way, this thing

Speaker 60: is being, passed with massive support from Big Ag. - Oh yeah

Speaker 30: the US Bureau of Commerce. - Like massive support. And so these same companies that are hugely in favor of this donated $550,000 to Glenn

Thompson

Speaker 61: to his campaign. And he's supporting their push for, you know, having some cheap labor on their farms

now. So

Speaker 29: like, this is the kind of thing where I feel like we've got to destroy these establishment holdovers. And there's not

Speaker 22: going to be a perfect world where the Congress, you know, everybody in Congress looks like me. Like, that's never going to happen. We're never going to have a Congress that conservative

Speaker 62: Not that many people that believe what you believe would not assemble for lawmaking activities. That would be a, I believe a posse

Speaker 64: is the correct word for what they're saying

Speaker 65: Can you imagine how epic that would be, how much stuff we'd get done in one day? You'd break some stuff, too

That

Speaker 66: needs to be broken. The system is broken

Speaker 22: But, yeah, so the fact that you just see where their priorities are on stuff like this, it just makes you sick to your stomach

Speaker 6: Okay, David, so until we have a legislative body full of Pearson Sharps, how do we deal with the fact that this might have the votes to pass? If you look at these Republicans, you've had the Democrats

Speaker 67: The House is a majoritarian body. I

Speaker 11: mean, look, the job of a representative is to represent their constituents' needs, and representatives from these farming communities They rely on the labor, and there isn't people who are willing to fill these jobs

Speaker 10: immediately. Now, I'm not suggesting we have any sort of amnesty. That's ridiculous. Well, hold on

Speaker 42: I didn't make my point to tell you it's ridiculous or not, but that's the reality. If you own a farm and you're like, well, there goes all my labor, guess what happens? Produce prices go up, and if produce prices go up, inflation goes up, and if inflation goes up, people start to say Trump is making good on his promises in the economy, and then the Fed goes, well, we can't drop interest rates. Everything has

a down

Speaker 42: the river effect, which inevitably hurts in the midterms and could hurt us in the White House in '28. So we have to be cognizant of all the decisions we're making from principle and see what the downstream effects are. Now that being said, I'm never in favor of amnesty because if we have amnesty, what you do is you encourage people to break the laws knowing that there's certain sectors. Oh, I can cross the border illegally. If I go to Iowa and get on a farm, I'm good

So

Speaker 42: what we need to do— So do you consider this amnesty? I would consider it amnesty. You would not

Speaker 68: vote for this

Speaker 69: No, but I would come up with a—this is what we don't do is these counter-proposals

Speaker 41: and get support for them. You need to fast-track visas to re-enter the country. So leave if you're here legally, and then you come right

Speaker 70: back to the front of the line with your agricultural exemption, and you can actually get a fast-track visa if you're not a terrorist. Yeah

Speaker 71: but while they're here, they just try to get married and have an anchor be. Well, we

Speaker 70: don't—well, talk to the Supreme Court about that one

Speaker 71: Yeah, but that's the battle space we're

Speaker 73: in

Speaker 72: No, I think everybody who's here illegally should be deported

Speaker 10: immediately. that, There is no gray area on this. If you're not lawfully present in the country, you need to turn around and leave because you're not allowed to be here. And for some reason

Speaker 70: America is the only country where you're allowed to violate our sovereignty and just hang out until we do something about it. So

Speaker 74: as I distill the Pollack position, he would not vote for the Glenn Thompson-supported legislation. However

Speaker 16: he would not excoriate those people and throw them off their committees and challenge them

Speaker 75: in primaries. Well, I see where you're coming from. a view that he thinks is a rational view, even though it's not a view he holds. So I could tell your blood pressure's at like

Speaker 76: two 10 over 110. - I

Speaker 22: mean, look, both of my families, my mother's side and my father's side, we're from Imperial Valley in California. It's the largest agricultural center in the Western hemisphere

Speaker 78: You shake your family tree hard enough, a few sombreros will fall

out

Speaker 77: No, I've traced it. We've gone back to 1500. - Okay, I see you

Speaker 59: corrected. - English and it's Swiss Italian and some Scottish in there. But in any case-- - Swiss

S

Speaker 79: Swiss-Italian, yeah. From the Italian side of the Swiss border. - Must've been the Mussolini

side. - There are

Speaker 79: some

Speaker 80: good points about, no, I'm just kidding. No

Speaker 30: but both of my families were major farming families and we didn't hire illegals. You don't need illegals to work in your fields. You don't need-- - Who do you

hire

Speaker 31: Americans! White people will work in these jobs! Okay, 'cause, listen, what I hear is that that is just not a thing. Like, are you telling me-- My dad was out in the fields farming for, like, 20 years

Speaker 81: Are you telling me, Pearson, If you and I start driving around the agricultural communities of Southern California, we'll be

Speaker 82: able to go out onto the fields and we will find white people? No, but this is because that's what we've allowed to happen. It ain't

Speaker 83: the Mayflower Union out there

Speaker 82: No, it's

Speaker 60: not. This is what we've allowed to happen. We've created the situation where these fields are dominated by illegals

Speaker 30: and by migrants and stuff. Our government

Speaker 84: Right. So how do we fix it? We get 'em all out of here. - Well, right, but what do you do? The government has incentivized

Speaker 85: these programs by basically telling people that used to work on the farms that no, you're gonna find different jobs because we have

Speaker 60: ways to do it cheaper. - The argument that we can't find American citizens to do jobs that we have illegals doing is insane. We can't find American citizens to work at restaurants. Like, we

Speaker 86: can't find American

Speaker 87: citizens to work indoors. You go to Sweden, you go to Iceland, you go to any of these Northern European countries, they have Europeans working in the field. Yeah, but in those countries, what is the

Speaker 84: GDP, what is the agriculture GDP of those countries

I

Speaker 84: don't know off the top of my head. - What I'm telling you is the United States has a vast need for labor. You can

Speaker 88: expand on this concept from the bottom up. You have to start cleaning it out though. You can't start making exceptions and

Speaker 85: passing rules. I said we need to deport anybody who's illegal, but what we need to do is create an avenue for people who want to do labor to help actually feed our citizens

Speaker 42: We need to have that labor available to us. Now, I'm not saying it's illegal labor, but you have to have the way for people to come do the work

Because

Speaker 42: what do you need to shut down all the farms in America

My

Speaker 7: concern is we have created such a social welfare state in this country where there are certain jobs that no Americans will do because you can do nothing in America and still have basic needs

Speaker 89: met. And if people can do nothing, I mean, Pearson, people get on disability in this country just for being fat. Oh, I know. People get on disability because they're fat and then

Speaker 38: they sit home and order Uber Eats. And so you're telling me that guy just like you know ready to go out and cut

Speaker 6: off the welfare well that is what we tried to do in the first biden reconciliation bill this was the source of a bit a big conflict between me and kevin mccarthy because i said look i hate this debt limit thing that you say we have to expand

Speaker 7: but if i could get work requirements on welfare i would

hold my

Speaker 7: nose and vote for the debt limit

Speaker 6: because

of

Speaker 6: the theory we just have teased out. That until you have that, you actually can't do a lot of the other stuff without the downstream consequences that

Speaker 34: David's talking about. And then of course from McCarthy, we got a handful of howdy and a mouthful of much obliged. We were told that there were work

Speaker 91: requirements, but then when you went and read them, they went and expanded eligibility for some of these social services that actually made them larger after the work

Speaker 38: requirements not smaller, which defeated the purpose. I think this is our next big, you know, 80-20 issue

I

Speaker 6: think most Americans can look around in their neighborhoods, the families that are in school with their kids, and say, a bunch of these people don't do anything and have a bunch of bogus federal dollars hitting their bank account every month

And

Speaker 6: people are going to say, you know what? You should have to actually have a little skin in the game. And I don't believe that a work requirement should only

Speaker 19: be met with a job. I think you could meet a work requirement through volunteer work. If the answer is I can't get a job, go

Speaker 92: volunteer at the local park. Go volunteer for a nonprofit. People are always looking for extra help

Speaker 93: There's a bigger issue here too that we have to explore as well with respect to agriculture. And we tell you

Speaker 10: this a lot, food security is national security. Our ability to feed ourselves is what protects us from places like China who's buying up our farmlands for what reason, right? To develop them so we can't feed ourselves anymore. We've created, and I'm not saying they're not smart for us to do, but we've created agreements with other countries to buy their produce, right? And so our farmers are constantly having

to

Speaker 10: to be subsidized by the federal government to be able to stay in the business. Because if you go to a farmer's market, you're gonna buy a tomato that costs twice as much as the tomato brought in from South America or Central America because of the agreements we have with trade and we can't cut those off

Speaker 42: either because there's economic leverage that we use and we have to help those countries. There's so many issues at play. But at the end of the day, the most important thing is that Americans can be fed

But

Speaker 42: you can't, if you put in these draconian

Speaker 40: sort of, we can't have this labor, we must do this, the prices of produce and farm goods in America will cost either the consumer more money or the taxpayers more money to subsidize the farms or to wipe out the farms or wipe them out completely

Speaker 95: and China will buy them. If we have less illegal aliens in the United States, the tomato that I buy that was grown in Mexico isn't going to be... fundamentally different in

Speaker 6: price, but that farm, that American farm eventually becomes a subdivision. And then your point about national security is the

right one. You

Speaker 74: know what I think ultimately solves

this debate

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Speaker 100: automation and robotics i think at the end of the day needing a bunch of manual labor to go do this will be uh will be just alleviated because we'll have drones that'll be out there picking it yeah then

Speaker 91: what pierce

Speaker 100: there was well there was actually a story

Speaker 101: drones i just what what happens Hold

Speaker 67: on, before we go on again, got to get to the syrup story because it's i'm obsessed with it but this is going to pass the house they're going to get a

Speaker 20: discharge petition and pass this farm worker amnesty bill okay and then the slow gummed up arcane process of the senate that you rail on every week on this program is

Speaker 102: going to be what saves us from this farm worker amnesty

Speaker 103: you think

so

Speaker 58: well it could be leverage that will tie your emotions into knots um god let's hope it's not leverage because then it'll get done but go

Speaker 21: ahead i was gonna say this could you know talking about food security and all that just ties into the mom donny grocery store topic

oh

Speaker 104: yes yes yes that goes right into that yes so my favorite my favorite

Speaker 105: part of the story is that he's requiring

Speaker 106: an id yeah

Speaker 105: yeah oh oh it is so rich a

Speaker 106: library card like id that's the way it was described

Speaker 107: it was like a library card

matt How

Speaker 107: are married women going to eat? What

Speaker 89: happened? What if they're a success? Do you think there's any chance these grocery stores are a success

Speaker 109: No, no

I

Speaker 59: saw a crazy video of, it was on Twitter, this black lady was showing up to one of those free food banks, and she went around the city going to the free food banks and just collected thousands

Speaker 60: of dollars

worth of

Speaker 60: food. I'm sure most of it got wasted. But that's... That's what happens. And I was reading about this. - Pearson has

Speaker 28: found the scourge on our system and it is people showing up at food banks. - Well abuse, it's fraud. - Okay. - It's fraud

O

Speaker 65: Okay

Speaker 59: Like my dad always says, you know, when he was a kid, they didn't have welfare and he doesn't remember anybody sitting in the streets dying from not eating. You know, it didn't happen. You found a way to eat, you worked, you made your money. But interestingly, This goes back to, we have an example of how these stores work. Obviously the Soviet Union, that was a disaster. They did government run grocery stores there and they just collapsed because the government couldn't figure out how to manage the supply and demand side

of it. But we have a

Speaker 29: more recent example in Venezuela

It

Speaker 29: was called Mercall, and it quickly became one of Chavez's most popular social programs. The gap between Mercall's subsidized prices and prices the grocery stores created an obvious resale opportunity, which is where the voter ID

Speaker 30: comes in, the grocery store ID. So there were complaints of diverted goods, fictitious purchases, store clerks allowing their friends and relatives to jump in line, and corruption in procurement and distribution. Hauling food across the border to resell at market prices in Colombia became a booming industry. Black market reselling even spawned a new profession, bachacheo. I don't know how I'm saying that right. Anyway, lastly, the government responded to the shortages with tighter controls. It capped purchases, assigned shoppers a weekday based on the final digit of their national ID number, and registered sales by ID and fingerprint. Some stores required shoppers to bring a baby or present a birth certificate before they could buy diapers. So that's what happens with these stores. And this is obviously, it's going to undercut private grocery stores. They can't compete. And the end game with all of this is that the government is going to be in charge of feeding people. And if you do things the government doesn't like, you don't get to eat

Speaker 91: That's it. The social credit score layer on top of this is what's next. What are you following on the Momdani grocery store story

Speaker 11: Right. There's a few things, but it's been tried in the United States as well, even in places like Florida, and it's failed every single time they've tried to set up these community grocery stores because the model just doesn't work. I mean you can't – who's going to pay for it? And then after who's going to pay for it, you undercut the local vendor. It just doesn't work. So is that how this dies, like

a

Speaker 16: bunch of picketing local bodega shop owners outside? No

Speaker 11: it dies when there's nothing on the shelves and people stop coming. So the way it works is you have to get the stuff from somewhere, right? And this is the enemy. of any socialist is the free market

Speaker 10: and you know the wherever they're getting the food from they're going to be selling it to almost their competitors and eventually they're going to say if you want us to buy from you you can't sell it at a discount it's just like if you ever go to buy something online you'll see the same price at walmart.com at homedepot.com and on amazon why are they the same price they're allowed to some wiggle room in the sales but the the there there's a price

Speaker 41: setting structure built in from the wholesaler because nobody who's competing against wants to get undercut on a special pricing or they're not going to sell the good because it's not fair to them. The same thing is going to happen with the grocery stores and the vendors. So where are you going to get the food from? Well, sure. I mean, maybe you can have people donate the food, maybe grocery stores who have food that's getting ready to expire that they're going to throw away. Sure. Put those in the community grocery stores and then maybe offset the cost of doing business with a reduced price for those

Speaker 10: expiring goods. That would make perfect sense. But the idea that you're going to create a government subsidized grocery store to compete with fresh produce and fresh products at a 30% discount, it's not sustainable because one, you'll run out of other people's money, which we're learning in New York and that happens very quickly. Two, the suppliers are not going to go along with it either because they're going to want to keep making money off the people actually paying them to stock their shelves. So guess

who

Speaker 42: doesn't get the freshest stuff? It's the community-run grocery stores. And guess what? Nobody's going to want to shop there. So they

can take

Speaker 42: their food stamps and go to the Publixes of the world and actually buy fresh stuff versus going to the dumps of the community. Anything the government takes over is always – - A sub-par quality

It's a disaster

Speaker 42: Right, and people are gonna learn that. Nobody's gonna go to the stores they're

Speaker 111: gonna go in. - If they took over sand, tomorrow we run out of sand. I mean. - This is gonna be like the DMV experience. - Oh my

Speaker 112: God, could you imagine? - And it's gonna grow too, because

Speaker 113: this is like a vicious cycle. This is gonna put local stores out of business, private stores out

of

Speaker 22: business, which means they're gonna need to be replaced with more government run stores, which is gonna put out more stores out of business

S

Speaker 54: So you think it will spread? Because what Pollock seems to suggest is that this thing crushes under its own weight and at the same point, the bodega across the street and the government-run grocery store are getting their foodstuffs

Speaker 7: from the same distributors and at the end of the day, that's what crushes it. But what you seem to be saying is, oh no, this thing could metastasize

Speaker 29: It could metastasize. And I mean, communism, socialism should have been crushed, but instead it's growing

Speaker 30: So I think they're going to double down on these failed policies. I mean, New York was $12 billion in debt when he took over and the state bailed them out. It's like they're going to keep getting fuel for these fires they're creating. And what's also incredible is that 10 to 15 percent, which is like $900 million of New York's food stamp budget, is wasted on fraud. Right. every single year. - No way. - Like almost

Speaker 23: a billion dollars is wasted on fraud. I'm sure that's a low number too. So of course this is gonna be abused. These communists take no account of human nature

Speaker 115: when they come up with these grand ideas

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Speaker 116: And let's not forget that you need two forms of ID, government ID to get paid to shovel snow in New York

Speaker 59: Y

Speaker 117: Yeah. - What

Speaker 118: Yeah

T

Speaker 117: Two forms of ID. - So they don't have the illegals shoveling the

snow

Speaker 118: Well

Speaker 117: they

Speaker 119: get IDs in New York. - They get IDs

So yeah, they can

Speaker 119: The place where I've been watching the invasion

O

Speaker 6: Oh yeah. - This past week

is

Speaker 6: in Europe. And I mean, we have seen scene after scene of tens of thousands of African migrants swarming Spanish towns. What are you following in this, David? Give us kind of the Pollock diagnosis here. Oh

man. I

Speaker 11: mean, you couldn't have scripted it any better. Now, I know the conspiracies out there. I'll stay away from those for a moment. Okay. Because I'm sure

Speaker 120: we're going to get into 'em

Speaker 10: Yes. - But I think the practical reality from it is it showed how having a soft border and then government policies and then court rulings that back up those government policies that leave your door open encourages mass migration. Now, why the timing of it and why there were so many in two different locations? Because it wasn't just Suta. There was another place where they were also storming the border. And then what happened when they got there? Some of them left, some of them stayed, and there's some, you know, There's some more I want to talk about with that. But as soon as they started getting there, started breaking into homes immediately. They started stabbing locals. Like

Speaker 41: they weren't there to be like, oh, cool, a better life. And the really interesting part is that's a springboard to the rest of Europe because of these policies. So look what happened immediately. These open borders that they've been fighting, like the Eastern European countries have been fighting against, the ones in the European Union like Poland, paying a fine to not accept these migrants. All these other countries are like, wait a second, I don't know who these people are. And now they have a right to come to our country. We're not going to allow it, Spain. you need to firm

up

Speaker 41: up your border. But the interesting part about all of this is the people that were coming across, what did they say? Like 80,000, double the size of the population. It was still less than the people that were coming over on a daily basis when Joe Biden was president that was coming across our own Southern border and they were distributed throughout our country. And so I do want to talk about Suta because it talks

Speaker 40: about so many fundamental examples and how people are changing their position on things based on how shocking it was to see this many people come over. But what you have to do is put yourself in our shoes and understand that that's how shocking it was in the United States on a daily basis. And all of these people, the people that are stabbing people in Spain, the people that are breaking into homes

Speaker 45: they're still doing that here. And then you have

Speaker 121: liberals on the street and Democrat politicians saying, no, no, no, no, don't get them out. But yet in Europe, they're coming to their senses and saying, get rid of these people immediately. That shows

Speaker 40: you how backwards this anti-deportation strategy is. But Sutta is such a perfect example of, hey, if we just trickle people in, nobody's going to say, anything but then they took advantage of it and then you couldn't be ignored anymore and now the common sense principles that donald trump is trying to institute here now all of a sudden europe's a fan of so i kind of love it are they getting it in spain i think

Speaker 122: they are i i the left is well the people are getting trench there does the

Speaker 70: government get it is the question the

Speaker 42: socialist government do they care what their people think and the problem with all these socialist places and we see it in california a lot of times the people really object to the policies but surprise surprise the elections don't go the way the people want them to and the socialist government and does what they want anyway

that's the question

Speaker 42: And

Speaker 123: I must confess, I know very little about how election integrity works in Spain or Portugal or France. But

Speaker 6: if this is part of the design, you have to wonder whether they've gone past the point of no return. I mean, and what really gets me about the story, Pearson, is... how fast everything just comes unglued

Speaker 89: Like the Spanish empires carved out countries in the

Speaker 124: Americas, they like overwhelmed the Mayans and the Incas and they had a global empire

Speaker 126: They ran the seas and you do like two decades of open borders and it's just kind of over for

Speaker 61: them. Well, it's same with the UK, same with Britain. You had a global empire and look what's happening

overrun

Speaker 61: with migrants

Speaker 127: they're rolling out the welcome mat

Speaker 61: Yeah, yeah, 30 years, 30 years. And it's just, you can destroy an entire country. And that's because you have a clash of civilizations. You have a competing civilization moving in. And that's what people don't understand. They just see migrants coming over and they think they want a better life

That's not

Speaker 61: how this

Speaker 59: works. Like people don't understand history. And it was like 7/11. the Islamic invasion of Spain started and they came up from Morocco and started taking over the country. And you had 780

Speaker 22: years of Muslim occupation

in Spain

Speaker 22: And this was brutal for the Christians at the time. They were treated like third-class citizens, slaves. Thank God we had Charles Martel, who was like 732

who

Speaker 59: he stopped them coming into France. And we started pushing back on that. And finally you had Ferdinand and Annabelle of Castile. I forget, it was Ferdinand anyway. - Isabelle. - Isabelle. And they finally took it back. But you

Speaker 22: had, hundreds of years of brutal conquest, and this is what happens. It's a civilizational conflict. It's not just people

Speaker 59: running over the border, and you see thousands of people on TV, and that's it. This is a massive issue that has global consequences, and people don't get that. They just, you have this

Speaker 128: suicidal empathy. - But what do you assess as the likely outcome? Because I, David and I have a disagreement on this, I think. David's like, no, man, these people are

Speaker 6: waking up. It's gonna be, Europe's gonna follow the United States. We had these problems, we woke up, we put Trump back in office. That's the trajectory they're on. I take the view that they may be past the point of cultural reclamation. And I take no joy in saying that. It's the old country, right? But how much of this can these little towns sustain? Those people are never going back

Speaker 89: right? So how do you think it ends? - For a country like

Spain

Speaker 77: Well, for Europe, 'cause it's the same question for Europe. It's everywhere, and the United States. - Well, you

Speaker 130: got places like Poland, Hungary that are

Speaker 77: Y

Speaker 22: Yeah, but you've got Donald Tusk in Poland who's doing a lot of really stupid stuff and kind of leaning towards opening the borders for these people

Speaker 131: It'll be over then. - Yeah. - It'll be

Speaker 77: a little Syria. - Well, just like Hungary, they lost their election and now they've got a progressive socialist in there who's gonna open the borders for them

It

Speaker 59: either ends, it literally comes down to us or them. Matt, like it's, it's going to be, we fight back and we take it or we lose everything. There's going

Speaker 29: to

Speaker 132: be. Fight back. Fight back. And you're up there welcoming it

Well, no, I

Speaker 29: mean, you have people in Ireland who are like burning down the migrant housing, which was their housing first. So you have, you have a population that is massively fighting against this. Do you think this ends in

Speaker 133: violence? But you also have. I think there's a political

Speaker 88: solution. But, but you also have the politicians and, and just a retarded group of people who are like the Muslims who attacked in Germany. who attacked that gay pride event in Germany. And you had that lady get up and say, "Well, I was really hoping that it would be "a

Speaker 60: right-wing white person, Christian. "We shouldn't talk about the fact that it was a Muslim." Like that was literally her quote. - I've

Speaker 134: never heard you defend a gay pride parade so enthusiastic

Speaker 30: This is insane though. This is Hamtrak, Hamtrak, Michigan, the first, Muslim majority city in America 2015 and they just got in trouble like this year They

Speaker 29: made the headlines for pissing off all the liberals because they banned the gay pride celebrations and the flags and stuff Like this is what Muslims

Speaker 88: do. So maybe there is an upside to Muslim occupation But honestly, this is what's gonna happen. This is what we're fighting against. It's civilizational

So is

Speaker 88: there a

Speaker 135: political solution, David

I

Speaker 93: agree with you with respect to is it possible for the European

Speaker 10: governments to actually do anything about it. I think, and you see this in the United States and you see this in Europe, I don't think, and

you see this

Speaker 10: in California, and I take California as a perfect example because we all saw everybody seem to really rally around Spencer Pratt. And then we saw election night, it seemed like he was going to win and then in the month that followed, some socialist in Nithya Raman all of a sudden overtook him and now we haven't heard from her since, right? You assume the election was fair. But

Speaker 136: no, it might not have been, I don't know, right? Because they've made it so impossible to

Speaker 41: prove. But what I'm saying is

The

Speaker 41: people are certainly sick of it. And the examples you cited

Speaker 10: with the riots and people burning homes and attacking migrants, which I don't think you could just, one group is not the same as another. That is the problem that comes in. People get very frustrated and sometimes you have unintended victims. But I think the people are frustrated. The question is

do

Speaker 10: they have enough control over their governments to actually convince their governments to do anything about it? And then it gets down to the philosophical question of who's in charge of these governments? Is it the people? Or is it the governments have become so

Speaker 40: large and so bureaucratic and so insulated that they actually don't have to listen to the people anymore? Look what they did to Marine Le Pen. Well, but that's the question, right

So

Speaker 10: is Europe too far gone? Potentially, but if Europe is too far gone and people have a disagreement with the government

they

Speaker 40: feel like they have no power

It

Speaker 40: could end violently. We've seen that in the United States in 1775, right? I mean, this is what happens is people go, okay, well then

Speaker 52: you're not my government anymore

Speaker 137: Here's the thing. If Europe responds to Pearson's call on this podcast

Speaker 7: and rise up in some intensified conflict, I'm not entirely sure today that our

Speaker 6: side

Speaker 105: wins. And that's why we're not as enthusiastic. All right, I gotta get to this final story before we check out

this week. And so much

Speaker 6: of Washington is built around what you can sell, you know, not even what's good for people, but like, could we get away with selling it? And you succeed at that a certain number of times, and it builds up a certain amount of hubris. I think

the max

Speaker 6: of that hubris was when the Democratic Party sold us Joe Biden as

Speaker 4: like a competent, functioning president. Yeah

the

Speaker 4: reality was that that was not the case are

we going

Speaker 138: through this moment right now with mitch mcconnell no my on

Speaker 6: our side are we going through a moment where people have successfully sold so much for so long that they can literally sell us on the notion that mitch mcconnell

Speaker 8: is a senator today

Speaker 139: how are you covering this on your

Speaker 140: show

david -

Speaker 140: Again, I try not to play in the realm of conspiracy

Speaker 141: But in this instance-- - Why not? All these conspiracies have been

Speaker 42: true. - I know, in this instance, I'll say two things. One, I don't think it's our Joe Biden moment because I don't think enough Republicans are willing to pretend that we think he's competent. So I think the Democrats were like, oh no, Joe Biden's fine, let's just get him in. So I don't think we're doing that 'cause I haven't met a Republican who's like, oh yeah, Mitch McConnell's good other than the ones who speak to him for 20 minutes. So no, I don't make that comparison, but I will say this

When

Speaker 42: proof of life is the standard

Speaker 121: right? When holding a newspaper, he's alive, okay? That's good enough. When proof of life is all that's necessary to remain a senator, I think we have a

Speaker 40: serious problem. And I don't care if he can speak, if he can't speak, if he can stand, if he can't stand. I think that when you have to have him hold the newspaper to prove that he's alive

Speaker 45: it, one, makes me question... what we should be doing if that's number two, is he alive? Because I've never held a paper to prove something before unless it's not true

So I

Speaker 41: don't know. I think whenever the deadline occurs, when you can have an election to replace him, I think at that moment, we'll find out the truth. But these 20 minute phone calls

and

Speaker 143: these random like appearances, I don't know, man. This is one of the weirdest stories of 2026

Speaker 144: Pearson Sharp, you are

Speaker 77: an investigative journalist. Do you know when you are being

lied to

Speaker 77: I mean

when

Speaker 77: you see their mouths moving you're being lied to his mouth isn't moving pretty pretty easy

Speaker 26: litmus test pollock makes the point that we should have a higher standard for the united states senate than can you fog a mirror yeah

Speaker 145: not even can you prove that you could fog a mirror potentially we've

we've covered

Speaker 109: this topic a couple of times and i'm still in the same position like

this is not what we

Speaker 59: elected them for if you're not capable or competent get out

And

Speaker 59: I understand that this is

you know, they

Speaker 59: think they're kings and queens and that they're in these positions for life, whether we want them or not. I just looked up on my phone, I couldn't remember her name. Representative Kay Granger. - Yes

Y

Speaker 146: Yeah. - Yes, RIP, she passed recently

But

Speaker 23: she spent the last three months in a nursing home

Speaker 146: While chairing the appropriations

Speaker 147: committee

Speaker 23: Yeah. So like, we don't have competent leaders. Like

my heart

Speaker 22: goes out to you for your health conditions. That's a separate issue. You are meant to lead our country. And if you can't do that, get out. Like plain and simple. You said it before, I'm being selfish. I should be selfish. We need strong people leading our country. I don't know what else to say

Speaker 75: to that. - So how does it end? Does it end just with, us like what Pollack believes is some deadline of political significance

Speaker 53: will pass and then we'll just get like a quiet statement from the family on like

Speaker 91: Terrible news. - Yeah

right, right

Speaker 91: shocking. Shocking and surprising news about the condition of Mitch McConnell. Is that where

Speaker 4: we go? And then like, to me it's bigger than like, oh, you know, Mitch's vote or do we have it or do we not on any given day. To me, it's more like once they can believe that they can convince

you that

Speaker 4: someone is functioning and they're like not

Speaker 16: even they might not even be alive they might not be functioning who knows right but uh they really then think that that is

Speaker 10: is something they could drive a truck well you know what's interesting is what he represents because remember before he went to the hospital this latest time for whatever reason uh arguably not in c having cpr and unconscious um remember they

Speaker 45: would just wheel him around in a wheelchair like from thing to thing and he was like kind of he wasn't even there and i'm watching them wheel the wheelchair and i'm Like

what do you do

Speaker 45: What are they wheeling around? And it really talks about Washington power because what they're preserving then, as long as he has a pulse, all of the deals, all of the promises, whatever his

Speaker 41: staff has decided is important to him is what they're wheeling him into. What he represents, what's sitting in that wheelchair isn't a representative of Kentucky. It's a representative of everything that's broken in Washington. The special interests, the donors. That's what's being wheeled around. The promises that he has to keep before he's allowed to leave in November. That's what they're wheeling around. And that's what they're pretending is

Speaker 148: still alive with the newspaper as proof of life

Speaker 119: Every politician of significance with power ultimately becomes an enterprise. Correct

Speaker 148: That's what they're wheeling

Speaker 149: around. The business. And it's the enterprise

I want to

Speaker 149: end on a positive note or at least something fun

Speaker 79: Whoa, whoa, the AI

Speaker 150: robot has taken

Speaker 79: over. Peterson Sharp wants to end

Speaker 151: on a positive note. - I do, I mean, we've had so much doom in these days. - I'll be still in my heart. - Positive and

Speaker 65: personal. You know, we cover a lot of news and we talk about a lot of other stuff, but I think part of the fun, you know, watching these is seeing the people

Speaker 22: behind it. and we never talk about what we're doing or what's

Speaker 30: going on in our lives. And I'm curious, Matt Gates, what do you do for fun? What is a fun weekend for Matt Gates? What are your hobbies? What do you like to do? - I

Speaker 32: am a birder

And

Speaker 81: a fisherman

Speaker 152: You're

a

Speaker 81: birder. - Yes, I love to

Speaker 152: bird watch. - You've gotten to that

Speaker 81: age. - I was at that age at like 12, but yeah, I bird watch and I do love to fish

Speaker 153: What's the most interesting bird you've seen in San Diego

Speaker 81: Uh, well, I, I saw an incredible, uh, brown pelican

Speaker 6: migration. They move up and down, uh, you know, from San Diego down to Baja, Mexico, just sometimes by the thousands, like, and when the sky's filled with brown pelicans, that was

Speaker 17: incredible. Also, there are like some herring gulls that have a nest across from my, uh, where, where Ginger

and I

Speaker 17: run a place here

Speaker 119: And so I've been able to watch herring gulls grow up and, uh

Get

Speaker 119: fed by the prince. They have terrific parents. That's awesome. That's

Speaker 155: really cool. What do you do for fun

I

Speaker 154: like I'm really into cars I went to a car show Rancho Santa Fe this past weekend with my girls

Speaker 77: trying to get them to be gearheads Playing computer games when I get the chance, which is not very often And just general nerdy stuff reading books Star Wars Star

Speaker 156: Trek Lord of the Rings, you know that kind of stuff escapism

Speaker 75: Yeah. Tell him stories

Speaker 157: Every day. Tell

him

Speaker 75: stories. All of you, the news. And then he escapes in Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Nice. Amazing. Pollock, what are your

Speaker 158: what are your like guilty pleasures? You're not going to believe it. I do this for fun. Like this is my fun. I worked as a boring lawyer. What do you do for work

Speaker 160: Lame. I don't work

I

Speaker 84: know

Speaker 10: it's I know it's cliche. And they say if you do what you love, you never work a day in your life. I worked for 17 years as a lawyer in government. Most boring, thankless job. It was service. in some respects. And now I get to do this. This is fun for me. I enjoy coming to work every day. And so when I go home though, I do spend a lot of time with my family because that's the most important thing to me. And so I work really hard here 'cause I love it. And then I go home and we like to be on the water. So we'll go on paddle boards and do whatever. But now that I do what I love every

Speaker 161: day, this is fun

I

Speaker 161: mean, if it's not fun, I wouldn't be doing it. So this is what I do for fun. A true Florida man enjoys a little time on the water. Yeah, of course

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