Matt Gaetz — The Anchormen Show EP 143 - MK-ULTRA

Speaker 2: now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and pearson shark welcome back to the anchorman

Speaker 3: show i'm matt gates here with the terrific on-air talent and investigative reporting analysis opinion team at one american news my frequent co-host my buddy pearson sharp pearson thanks for being here and the guy i get to hand the wheel to now every night at 10 p.m for david pollock prime time david pollock david i'm so excited it's going to be great uh having you right there chasing the matt gates show everybody's favorite

Speaker 4: 9 p.m opportunity for a little look at the news of the day and pearson thanks so much for guest hosting i really appreciate that my pleasure i i now know he gets those for me too yeah

I

Speaker 4: now know I am at best the second best host of the Matt Gaetz Show after watching

Speaker 6: Pearson do such a terrific job. No, but the audience loves it when you do it. My only gripe with Pearson is that

Speaker 7: he will not guest host multiple days in a row because he is an artist. And he's put so much

Speaker 8: attention into every script and every research project that he's not

Speaker 9: a

Speaker 10: After this last experience, I think I'd be more comfortable doing that, working with your

Speaker 11: team and just being thrilled. into the fire, I think

I might

Speaker 11: be-- - You like writing

Speaker 8: You really like the reading, right? I think that's what my audience loves, you know, the extended review of a topic, the deep research, and you bring

Speaker 13: it. - The problem

Speaker 14: is I get so into the topic that I'm working on that my monologue is nine-tenths of the segment, and I have like four minutes left for the guest. - That's okay. - And it's like the

Speaker 9: guest

never gets to talk

Speaker 9: I felt that guilt originally, and our terrific director, Jared Buckwood, said they don't call it the Matt Guest Show

Speaker 15: Right. Well, that's true. I mean, that is true. But still, you get someone great like a congressman to come on, and he's there for like four minutes and two questions, and it's like, okay, thanks. I'm sure a congressman appreciates that

Speaker 6: How do you, David, on your show, you bring this great set of experiences as an activist, as somebody who's built a digital profile, bringing together kind of the influencer ecosystem that was a huge driver of success for Republicans. You're kind of an outgrowth of that very 2024 energy of politics. uh when you you know when you look at these segments and the incredible you've been getting uh terrific senators like our own senator rick scott on on your program uh you had the former prime minister of the uk on your program you know when you think about allocating that time you have with an on with the audience what's your anchorman take

on it

Speaker 17: Honestly, it depends on the conversation. I could have President

Speaker 18: Trump on if the conversation gets old. Well, thanks for coming, President Trump. It's really just about-- - It would never happen. - No, it never ever would happen. I'm just saying it's like, I was talking about this on my team today. Like, how long do you want to do these interview segments? I'm like, as long as it takes. Because, you know, like you and I yesterday during that MKUltra segment, if you guys haven't

Speaker 19: watched the MKUltra segment that Matt and I did, amazing. I watched it last night. I'm watching my own show and I made the show, right? Like Pee Wee Herman's Big Adventure. I lived it, Dottie, you know, but I'm watching it. I'm so compelled with what we were talking about because as in the moment, I couldn't quite even absorb what we were saying and watching it again. I'm like, this is shocking. Sometimes those conversations, they have to breathe and they take time, like fine wine. And so some interviews are longer, some are shorter. And I think the guest understands. I mean, if the guest has a lot to say on it and they're saying good stuff, I keep them. And if they don't

We

Speaker 19: don't. And if we're running out of time, I usually cut my monologues. This is a secret. I'll cut my monologues if I had a really good conversation with a guest in post. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well

Speaker 20: I did hear from your team that you typically go like nine minutes over. Listen, when you're making art. That's right. That's right. And

Speaker 3: when you're having a great time. Well, we've got a lot to talk about with MKUltra in a bit. But first, RIP to

Speaker 22: the MOU. This is the week that the United States re-engages with Kinetic Conflict conflict with Iran. Over 80 strikes in the initial salvo. I don't know, man. I've been cheerleading the MOU. I am for peace, and I thought

Speaker 3: that the MOU was the cheapest way to get it. So buy or sell, Pearson Sharp, the deal that America ultimately has to strike now

is

Speaker 6: worse than the MOU would have been. -Yeah, most

Speaker 24: likely. -You

Speaker 25: buy that. You think the deal we're going to have to strike is going to be worse than the MOU

Speaker 11: Well, the longer this goes on, the worse it gets. So the more damage we take as it goes. Gas prices are already going back up. Inflation is already going back up. Stocks are getting hurt again. Not that we really care about that, but, you know, people are not happy about this, and we're closer and closer and closer

Speaker 15: to November

So

Speaker 15: all this is bad news and I wonder if that's Iran's objective. Just keep prolonging this because it's going to hurt us more than it's going to hurt them in the long run. They can probably

Speaker 26: survive. Do you rest the responsibility for this reigniting of hostilities with Iran? Oh, yeah

You

Speaker 14: think it's their fault? Absolutely. I mean, how many people have they bombed the last couple of weeks since this was announced? Well, I mean, they would

say

Speaker 27: that the MOU required a cessation of hostilities in Lebanon and that just never ended. And so they weren't going to do their part of the deal if there wasn't a cessation of hostilities

in

Speaker 28: Lebanon. I mean, I'm sure there are provocations and yeah, I do blame Israel for some of that. Okay, so you at least accept

Speaker 30: a comparative negligence allocation

Speaker 29: here. I know you're not happy about that. No

Speaker 31: I just don't like you to brought comparative

Speaker 32: negligence. I just said trauma. I just I think I think Trump I

Speaker 11: know we're going to disagree on this, but I think Trump needs to go pedal to the metal with this. Like he said, he's sick of these

Speaker 33: people. They are

Speaker 34: What does that mean? What does pedal to the metal mean

Speaker 33: That means make it so unbearable for Iran that they have to come to the table. OK

Speaker 35: but be specific. Do we nuke Iran? No, we don't. Do you want to bomb their water? - No, so-- - Famine in Iran? - I know

Speaker 32: you're gonna love this idea. - Okay, let's hear it. - But just imagine

the

Speaker 11: spectacle. You know, Trump loves spectacles. Imagine the spectacle where Trump gets a Wheel of Fortune-style wheel and puts a list of all the mosques

Speaker 14: in Iran on it. And every time they attack us, spin the wheel, bomb a mosque

Speaker 36: Well, I think there's no doubt that that will vanquish more terrorists than it will create. I mean, you know

Speaker 37: when has

has

Speaker 37: demolishing religious symbols ever caused a group to not be more

Speaker 14: compliant and willing to work together. We got a long list of mosques, man. We can go longer than they can. Sure

Speaker 38: and at the end, there'll be no mosques and more terrorists. Sweet. That'll be awesome. Are you cheerleading the reigniting of these strikes on David Pollack

Speaker 39: primetime

Speaker 40: I don't think the MOU is necessarily done. Trump said it may. He said it may be done. He never gives up on a deal. He said may. He said it may. -

Speaker 41: Oh, wait, did I miss something

Speaker 42: No, no, no, no, you're on track, I think

Speaker 41: you

Speaker 43: But it's been a day. But he said may, and so I think he left the room open. Trump keeps doing this, and I'm on

Speaker 44: the fence with where this is gonna go, because he keeps doing this thing like, okay, well, maybe it's over, I'm gonna bomb you a little bit and threaten to do more, and then they come back to the table, and he's like, nope, now we have peace, we're good. Well, I think ceasefires are messy. I think ceasefires with Iran are messy. I completely agree with you that if this MOU doesn't hold

Speaker 45: This doesn't get any

Speaker 46: better for the United States. It's a key point

Speaker 45: We'll make it. Yeah, because it only gets worse from here because what are we willing to do? We've already threatened the thing, and we didn't do the thing. So now

Speaker 47: we have to do the thing, which doesn't take us any closer to where we are right now. This MOU is the best out we have, and I think Iran knows that

Speaker 45: which is why it's not going to work. And so now I feel like we're at a position where... Unfortunately, we have to

Speaker 48: take this to the next level. I think this meeting- - What does that mean? - I don't know, honestly. - Everyone says this

Speaker 49: to me. - I know. - Are you for like Pearson's

Speaker 43: mosque wheel of torture? - No, I think we have to start upping the targets. I think we just

Speaker 50: Agreed. Okay, would you target energy infrastructure

Speaker 43: I might, maybe. - Would you

Speaker 50: take out their water

W

Speaker 51: Well, so the question is- - Gotta break some eggs, man. - Would you kill the leader again? - Gotta break some eggs. - I don't want to. I don't want to do any of that. I would like- - But what do you mean when you say dial it up? - I think at this point your only choice, and I hate this because I think this never works, but the only choice from here on out is regime change. Unless you have regime change, this won't end. - To what? Regime change to what

Speaker 55: To a different government, maybe one that's more democratically elected that's secular. Oh yes, because those

Speaker 56: are hiding behind every sand dune

in the

Speaker 56: Middle East. No, I don't think it works

We

Speaker 57: just send the Falcon out and they come back with a Jeffersonian democracy for a Middle Eastern country where we just toppled the government. So

Speaker 58: Matt

Speaker 15: what is a not stars in your eyes, a realistic proposition in your opinion to solving this? The MOU. the mo you i'm totally for the mo you think but they're gonna i will be the biggest champion of the mo i mean i had a guest on your on your show and i was hosting who said they will the iranians are liars to their core they will never abide by any agreement that we ever make with them and

two weeks

Speaker 15: later it's been proven right

Speaker 60: how has that been proven right all the strikes that they've been launching because there was never a cessation of hostilities in yibin or in lebanon you tell me when there was an actual ceasefire in lebanon and and that would have been then a requisite time for Iran to be compliant. But Israel never stopped mowing down Southern Lebanon. And so like, you know, an MOU requires both sides to adhere to the terms. So like, you

Speaker 12: know, Iran was letting Transit through the straits before this war began Iran had abandoned

Speaker 61: their intercontinental ballistic missile program with in in 2015 we agree this shouldn't have started so I'm just like I'm trying to understand why it's like oh we could never trust Iran who's the who's

Speaker 63: the party right now talking about executing the negotiators it's not

Ron. -

Speaker 43: Yeah. - Well you know what really should have happened? I think this is where the war should have ended once the nuclear capabilities were destroyed. If the premise of this was to take it, but that's what I'm saying. If the premise was to, they were 10 days from a nuke

Speaker 47: let's take out their nuclear capabilities, then we just go back home. But we didn't. And now we're in a no-win situation, unfortunately, because yes, the MOU is our best out, But the MOU isn't

Speaker 19: necessarily the best deal. And Iran is not going to abide. I don't believe Iran is going to abide by the MOU. What

Speaker 45: incentive do they have to do so

Speaker 64: By the way, you know what they have an incentive to do right now

Speaker 65: Become North Korea because we did invade North Korea. And, I mean, I've reviewed both of their nuclear programs. It's not releasing any classified information that North Korea is way ahead of where Iran is. So if we don't like crazy people with nuclear weapons that say death to America to have nuclear weapons, then I can

Speaker 3: point you to the Hermit Kingdom. but you've, got the counter example in Libya where Gaddafi gives up his nukes and our CIA feeds him to his own people to rip into shreds in the streets. So I do think Iran is going

Speaker 12: to break to the bomb. And I blame people like Mark Levin. Mark Levin will be pushing up daisies when the Generation Z and Generation Alpha are having to deal with an Iran that will be richer and more

Speaker 3: Because of this war and more incentivized to break to a nuclear weapon That is why the MOU that President Trump and J.D. Vance negotiated is a good document, and we should, look, we should test

Speaker 66: whether or not Iran will abide by it, by abiding by it ourselves, and by not allowing Netanyahu to go and create

Speaker 67: all this conflict. The United

Speaker 12: States has, but Netanyahu hasn't, so how do we bring him to heal? Well, I think you cut them off. And I certainly don't think you weave their defense infrastructure into the United States and the National Defense

Speaker 6: Authorization. There we agree. 100%. So, all right. All right. We've got so much to get to. David, what are you preparing your audience for? You know, when people tune in at 10 o'clock and you are going through what we're going to be going through in these next few weeks in this war

Who

Speaker 6: are we going to be hearing from on David

Speaker 3: Pollack prime time and are you preparing them for Trump to kind of pull a rabbit out of the hat and get us back into a really positive productive posture toward peace which he has done before which I believe he wants to do again or are you preparing

Speaker 57: them for an extended regime change trillion dollar war

You

Speaker 19: know, it's, I'm not preparing, I'm preparing them for both. You know, I bring, I'm bringing people on from both sides to say

Speaker 47: here's why I think it's going to end in beast. Here's why I think it's going to end in not. And then, you know, cause we don't know. And this is the problem with this war is that there really is no exit

at

Speaker 47: all. Maybe the regime, it's bad. I mean, look, I stand by President Trump's decision to rid the Iran of having a nuclear weapon. They've been an enemy. They've been aggressive. And I believe standing by Israel, even though I know a lot of people object to it, Israel is an ally. We stand behind them just like NATO refused to stand behind us. Turkey stands behind us. They get jets. Spain doesn't stand behind us. They get their stock market tanked. I mean, there's value to loyalty. This is a mess and unless I think we're willing to see it through to its final outcome, which is regime change, which would have to be the next outcome, if it's not peace, it's regime change or so crippling Iran economically, crippling them so

dramatically

Speaker 47: terribly that they have no choice but to come to the table but that will never happen because you end up hurting the people more than you hurt the regime and then and then you lose your sympathy for the people you need to rise up against the regime

Speaker 40: right now if you were to replace the regime there's enough people that are angry enough with the IRGC that they would take control put in a provisional government will help it like we always do but if you start

Speaker 47: starving those

people And if

Speaker 47: you start taking away things and then the RGC starts attacking them back to keep them down, there's not going to be a spirit left to replace the regime. It's a tough situation. So in my show, we're going to have people on from both sides to explain what they think is going to happen, and then I'll let people decide from themselves what they want the outcome to be. And let's just hope, and I believe in President Trump and Vice President Vance, that they understand the best

Speaker 19: outcome for America, and they're going to do whatever they can to bring about that best outcome. Sometimes things don't go according to plan, but hey. I trust President

Speaker 68: Trump more than anybody else to get it

Speaker 11: done. Realistically, I think we've already seen what's going to happen, and that's a repeat of what has happened so far. There's going to be more tit-for-tat battles, more bombing, little things here and there, and then another MOU is going to come out and be solidified. With worse terms? With worse terms, probably. We can't accept

Speaker 70: that. It can't get any worse. I mean, that's the thing. It can't get any worse. Probably we heard that a lot during the

Speaker 21: Iraq War, and you know what? It kept getting worse

Speaker 71: Yeah

I will

Speaker 71: say this on the Matt Gaetz show when people come on and say

Speaker 6: well, we should just hit them harder dial it up We're gonna force them to be specific about what that means and whether or not People are actually calling for the United States to commit war crimes and whether or not they believe those

Speaker 36: war crimes Which by the way like targeting religious sites is a war crime So like you're actively yeah I mean Pearson will

will

Speaker 36: Unabashedly embrace war crimes, but I think it should be at least acknowledged. That's what you're suggesting I

Speaker 72: mean, that's where the terrorists are and if you can bomb them into submission, you know Yes

Speaker 73: oh yes, bomb Islam into peace. Yeah

Speaker 72: I mean, that's their strategy against us. It's war and defeat

Speaker 75: Oh, because they have a

Speaker 74: bad strategy now We have to engage in some self-defeating strategy. You eliminate the

Speaker 15: enemy So even if you don't even if you don't fix Iran at least you get rid of a lot of Muslim terrorists

Speaker 76: So should

we nuke them? - I think your

Speaker 77: answer is getting rid of all Muslims. Am I hearing you correctly? - I mean, they're a threat to the world

Speaker 78: Well, I don't believe that any group of people should be judged based on its worst members, and I think doing so

Speaker 11: I mean, their worst members are almost a billion in number. Like, these are radical people around the world. Every single country they

Speaker 79: exist in-- - Yeah, but I want you to answer the question, do you think we should nuke Iran

I

Speaker 15: I don't know, I wouldn't rule it off the table, but it has to be appropriate. Like, it has to, like, the situation has to warrant it. I don't

Speaker 11: think a nuke the entire country is the solution

O

Speaker 80: Oh, good, well

Speaker 12: I'm glad there's a line. - Yeah. - Speaking of

Speaker 71: matters of war and peace, Pearson, you bring to our attention this delicious scene right after

P

Speaker 71: President Trump gets Maduro out of Venezuela. There is concern that he's gonna do the same thing in Greenland and

Speaker 6: have US force presence there to achieve his ambitions. And Macron gathers folks in Brussels and says that France is ready to engage in kinetic conflict with the United States over Greenland. This from the Gateway Pundit, Pearson Sharp. Are you buying that the Greenland dispute could go hot

Speaker 81: between the United States and France

I

Speaker 82: I would love to see

Speaker 11: that. I mean, France is-- - Is there any war you're against? - Oh yeah, but I mean, France is such a wuss. they are wimps. And for them to be rattling their saber

Speaker 15: over this, it's absolutely ridiculous. While he has sold out his country, you know, to the invasion that he's facing on his front door to be threatening us with war over Greenland. I mean, it's absolutely absurd. And it just shows that Europe is not our ally. France is not our ally. The UK is not. They have their own interests at heart. I mean, this all comes down to, you know, the funding of NATO and everything else that Trump has been very reasonably requesting help with. There's no reason we should be footing all of their bills when they won't support us when we ask for their help. So I think it's hilarious. And I forget what the story was. It was like Denmark sent some troops over to Greenland to defend it. And it was a big story. "Denmark is deploying troops." And they sent like 12 people, it's all for the headlines. And I really, I would prefer to see Trump you know, annexing Greenland over our war with Iran. Personally, I think that would do America a lot more good in the

Speaker 11: long run. But yeah, that's hilarious that France wants to threaten us over this. On

Speaker 6: David Pollack primetime at 10:00 p.m., I know there is enthusiastic cheerleading for the Don Rowe Doctrine. Were you

Speaker 83: surprised at this report that Macron was talking about firing on American troops

It

Speaker 19: would be our troops that would have to fire on us because we're the only one who gives money to NATO. Oh, by the way, you

Speaker 85: think that's new for the United States to be funding the very people

Speaker 86: shooting us? That's literally what we do in Syria. But we'd be doing it in

Speaker 44: Europe. But yeah, I thought that was... No, it doesn't shock me. I thought it was funny, like you were saying, Pearson, about Denmark saying, oh, we will defend every

Speaker 87: inch of... With who? You would call us to defend... Excuse me, guys. I know you want to

Speaker 43: evade Greenland. "Would you mind putting some of your troops there to defend it from you, sure, we'll be right there and we'll give you some aid when we're done. But I mean, so yes, it doesn't surprise

Speaker 47: me, but it is no secret that the Europeans are not our allies, at least the Western European countries are not our allies anymore, exactly, because of the communist socialist influence, the open border policies. And this is what we talk about on David Pollock, Primetime at 10 o'clock now, right, following the Matt Gaetz Show. We do talk about what we're up against because this is

Just

Speaker 47: like when we talk about MKUltra and we tell these stories, I'm like, this isn't conspiracy, guys, this is real. This communist takeover of the West is real, and it's happening, and you need to look no further than France, than the UK, when France is like, yeah, we're going to war with the United States and Spain. These are socialist countries now, and a free United States is

Speaker 40: more of a threat to them than we are against China and Russia at this point. And so, no, it doesn't surprise me. What is NATO other than a group of people that are technically using our money to protect themselves from us? And that's where we're at. I don't think there's a value in NATO. And Star Wars with Russia. And Star Wars with Russia. I don't think we need NATO anymore. Absolutely not. They've outlived their usefulness. I think

Speaker 47: the United States has a big enough military we can take care of ourselves. I think Europe has snubbed their nose at us enough that we could just say, good luck. - Have your

Speaker 51: own NATO

Have fun, yeah

Speaker 51: And then we take-- - Talking about the Don Roe Doctrine. - Go ahead and have it. - We build a new NATO with the Western Hemisphere. We go to countries like Brazil, go to countries like

T

Speaker 89: The shield of the Americas is what you're describing. - Let's do that. Why do we care about what happens in Europe anymore? They're not there for us. Eastern Europe, now we do have some friends there

so

Speaker 47: we'll have to figure out how to handle that situation. But I think we just strengthen our hemisphere

And

Speaker 19: then we go back to doing what America did before World War II. And that's take care of ourselves. Create a pact with Russia

Speaker 90: man

You

Speaker 90: know what? - Get out of NATO and make a pact with Russia. You're not wrong there, and of

Speaker 37: course... That's Pearson Sharpe's journalism. Noun, verb, let's make friends with Russia

But at

Speaker 44: the same time, I'm not saying Russia is like

or

Speaker 44: friend either in a

Speaker 47: lot of respects. But they're not the boogeyman either. And that is the idea here, is that we have to stop making enemies with people that we can make

Speaker 51: allies with, and we have to stop being friends

with people and

Speaker 51: calling allies people who hate us and call us enemies. Like, we're okay with reshifting this, I think, at this point. Well, wait a second. I

Speaker 91: actually

Speaker 7: believe more in pragmatic diplomacy than values. based diplomacy

I

Speaker 7: agree with that

And Turkey's a

Speaker 3: perfect example. - Yeah, whether or not someone is geopolitically relevant maybe matters more to me than whether or not their values line up with it. 'Cause when you're values-based, then

Speaker 6: China shows up with a suitcase full of cash, Russia shows up with a paramilitary force to protect your regime from the horde knocking at the gate, and we show up wondering what you're gonna do for Pride

Speaker 8: Month. - That's right. That's what values-based diplomacy

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Speaker 3: So I want-- You're an artist with those segues. Smooth as the other side of the pillow, Pearson Sharp. So this is the topic we've been

Speaker 71: dying to get into. And we're going to get deep into MKUltra on this show and in some other stuff we're going to do with the network. And let me give you a preview of coming attractions

Our

Speaker 71: colleague, John Hines, on his program, After Hours, has an interview in the can with a survivor of the MKUltra program. David, we discussed it on your program this past week. Why don't you lay out, as you did beautifully in the monologue on your show, what MKUltra is, where

it

Speaker 94: originated, and what people are doing about it now

Speaker 95: Saying it out loud, Wow, just like I said yesterday, sounds like I'm crazy. MKUltra is not a rave

Speaker 44: It's not an EDM thing. It is a program that the CIA put together, essentially, to kidnap Americans, all kinds, homeless, vulnerable, non-vulnerable, and you mentioned children, dose them up with drugs

L

Speaker 47: LSD. - Yeah, LSD, and then do all kinds of things to them to essentially

Speaker 44: get to mind control. And so it was a government project to screw with people until they can control their minds. - Plant memories and create assassins. - And the craziest part of it, to create assassins, but the craziest part of it is it might still be ongoing

and

Speaker 44: in advanced phases and exported

Speaker 19: externally. So we're in a place, and I know everybody watching, everybody watching is gonna go and you're gonna dismiss it. You're gonna dismiss it as a conspiracy theory. I get it, I would want to do the same

Speaker 47: thing. Anytime I hear something that's so unbelievable that I don't want it to be true, I dismiss it as conspiracy. But this is absolutely true. This has been released by our own government. The files are out there. Congresswoman Ampolina Luna is getting even more documents. this happened and might still be happening, that the government's kidnapping people, giving them LSD and turning

Speaker 88: them into assassins and reading their minds, or controlling their minds. That's crazy to say out loud

isn't it

Speaker 96: Pearson, where do you think our report, you are our premier

Speaker 3: investigative reporter at this network, where do you think our reporting should bring people inside this secret CIA program, though now acknowledged to

Speaker 71: unwittingly kidnap Americans on American soil, drug them

up

Speaker 8: and torture them to the point where they become sociopaths capable of multiple personality disorders and control, and

Speaker 94: real control to do things that people of sane mind would never do. People who have not experienced horrendous trauma would not

Speaker 11: do. - I mean, we have several examples of that. There was the young man, he was I think 25 years old, in 1953 and he was found wandering out on the streets after having murdered a three-year-old girl and he was eventually convicted and put to death for it. But until the day he died, he said he had no memory of it happening whatsoever. There was another young man, I think in the early 1960s who was found, a family man had kids and went up into a belfry on a university and started shooting people. And he came back down, they arrested him. He had no memory of it ever happening. And in fact, it turns out he had a tumor on his amygdala. And I think these people were tangentially

Speaker 97: associated with the MKUltra program. You know why

Speaker 98: the

Speaker 71: CIA needed it? Deniability. Because there are certain things that our government throughout time has believed that it has had to do that are so bad and awful, Epstein-level stuff, that you got to have that layer of deniability. And so they needed to create this class of operatives

Speaker 7: who would do things that any normal human would not do. Like, as bad as I think Hillary Clinton is, I don't think Hillary Clinton

Speaker 71: would, like, sit there and execute a bunch of civilians at the Mandalay Bay shooting. You know, I don't. They need people who will do this. You know what else I find interesting? How many other organizations were allegedly

Speaker 99: involved? You're talking about universities

Speaker 100: publicly funded hospitals

Speaker 60: even

Speaker 101: churches in some cases

Speaker 60: so with all of that there was an effort at the cia to destroy the files uh you you reported on this talked about it on

your

Speaker 102: program uh how cia director helms had ordered the files destroyed on this program that could lead to who

Speaker 60: these people are that are ticking time bombs many of whom are still alive yeah and out

Speaker 12: there yep uh and and uh there are documents that have been found, some

Speaker 6: stuff that has been worked through. You talked about Congresswoman Luna's demands to get her hands on that. What are you following most closely in it

The

Speaker 104: thing that where I'm stuck with this, and I talked about it yesterday, is who's in control

Speaker 19: of them. I have always believed that no matter what files they find is never going to actually have the information to be really interesting to us. The same thing with the assassinations, Like, who plans this giant, like, conspiratorial assassin with multiple nations and keeps detailed notes and instead of destroying them goes I'm just going to put this in a drawer for somebody to find later so I don't believe any of the real evidence that's going to be really helpful exists I doubt it but what concerns me is who's in control of these people is it like the movies where somebody is working outside of the president's authority making phone calls and then they're activated to do god knows what and who's in control of them and that can start going in a lot of different directions of a lot of unexplainable tragedies that we've had in the last few years in this country that's brought

up

Speaker 19: about, you know, as James Carver says. Yeah, the JFK

Speaker 105: assassination. But

Speaker 19: beyond that, I mean, you go more recently, there's various school shootings. I think the mass shootings. There was one shooting, and again, I can't, I don't have any evidence that there's any relation here, but I thought it was so odd. There was

Speaker 51: that school shooting, I think it was the trans shooter in that Christian school. In

Speaker 106: Tennessee, the Nashville

Speaker 51: Yeah, it was, the news was there, and there was a gun rights advocate from Washington, just happened to be in

Speaker 88: town

the

Speaker 88: day of the shooting, and CNN was interviewing her. She was like, "Yeah, I just happened to be in town." So you're telling me this anti-gun lobby spokesperson just happens to be

Speaker 47: in the town where it's just shooting? I just thought it was so odd

and I

Speaker 47: couldn't figure out how that would ever be a coincidence. And then my mind started, when I started hearing MKUltra, I'm like, "Well, who's in control of these

Speaker 107: folks?" 'Cause this stuff makes no sense. - I mean, we've had

Speaker 11: lots of these programs though. There was Bluebird, I think was the first one. - Yeah, that's right. - And then there was

The Nazis

Speaker 11: There was Artichoke after that. The

Speaker 10: experiment with vaccines. There was like 12 that we know of that was in this whole list of

Speaker 11: programs and In-Care Ultra was just one. And there was a bunch of sub-programs from In-Care Ultra that went on afterwards as

well. I've

Speaker 37: had to do a lot of research as a congressman now, a journalist, and I have to say going through some of the survivor accounts

Speaker 109: I

have to

Speaker 109: take breaks because some of the descriptions of what our government did to

Speaker 110: people, to children, I

You

Speaker 110: know, I've got a pretty strong stomach for a

Speaker 109: lot of stuff, and this was hard to go through. It was compared

Speaker 112: one of the people researching it compared it to what Mengele did, you know

It was at

Speaker 113: that level

And you think it's

Speaker 113: ongoing. Oh, yeah, of course. Walk us through, you know, the belief is

Speaker 71: that following the Church Commission, following some of the review of Congress, that this got acknowledged in 1973, and that it was concluded in 1973. So why does pure and Sharpe

Speaker 114: think it's ongoing

do we believe

Speaker 114: anything the government says i mean why would we think that they would

be

Speaker 15: specific why would we think that they would stop this program like uh there was a guy named o'neill who was investigating this and he said one of

Speaker 10: the biggest mistakes he think congress made was taking the cia's word for it you know initially that they had stopped these programs he said their conclusion sydney gottlieb's conclusion at the time sydney gottlieb was the guy who was in charge of this program was that mind control is not possible and we can't, it's just, it's an unrealistic expectation. And Congress accepted that. And this O'Neill guy was saying, he thinks that's one of the biggest mistakes they made, especially considering all the advances we've had recently with AI and the other technological developments in the last 40, 50 years since then, since it was supposedly closed. things that gottlieb could never have dreamed of you know and what we're aware of that the military is doing that the cia is doing is that is you know not

Speaker 33: even the tip of the iceberg they're supposedly you know 20 years advanced with technology as far as what we're aware in the public sector so

do you

Speaker 33: think matt honestly that if there is a chance for the government to have the technology to control people to create you know assassins that don't remember what they did that they would

Speaker 98: abandon that pursuit well so you know what you know why i don't think it's abandoned because they still needed the capability well

Speaker 115: that's what i just said yeah what is the capability that they needed that's exactly what

Speaker 71: i just said not just the assassins but the deniability they needed that deniability still and so so that that that's uh that's why i agree in the in the report that i sent

Speaker 10: you that i had done i compared it to the covid vaccines yeah it

Speaker 33: was an interesting comparison and i don't think the COVID vaccine was designed to mind control, I don't know if it was designed to do anything, but the parallels are striking in just the mass implementation of this unknown, untested, unproven vaccine that suddenly everyone was supposed to take, everyone was supposed to use, and the side effects were

Speaker 37: catastrophic. The best evidence I can get to so far suggests that when they abducted someone and performed these procedures, tests, torture rituals on them, It was about 50-50

Speaker 116: that it took. So you got a bunch of people, a whole universe for whom it took and went into the

Speaker 99: mission space. And Lord knows who they are or what they've done. Have they gotten elected to public

Speaker 71: office? But then you've got the cohort where it didn't work. And I will tease the John Hines interview that I got a little glimpse of, Charles

Manson

Speaker 71: has a chapter in this story where there are allegations from other people that they were involved in the program with Manson

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Speaker 27: and manson goes into

Speaker 26: the program a normal adjusted mild-mannered person and obviously we we see the

Speaker 18: dead well did you see uh when thomas crooks he was in a black rock commercial or something

Speaker 120: crazy

out Oh

Speaker 120: yeah, I'll send it to you

I think

Speaker 121: I heard about

Speaker 120: that

He was

Speaker 120: in a commercial. They were in a classroom. And when he was in high school, he was in the commercial. When

you see

Speaker 120: things

Speaker 122: like that, I'm

going to

Speaker 122: show it to you later

It was

Speaker 122: the craziest

Speaker 123: thing

And I

Speaker 123: was in the Truman Show

I want

Speaker 124: to get to another story of government control. And it is a little more in our face

Speaker 37: than MKUltra. The huge proliferation of these flock cameras. I was at the farmer's

Speaker 71: market at La Jolla, someone rushes up to me, like wearing an ACLU vest. And I'm thinking, this is gonna be good, right? They're gonna ask me to do some sort of like pro-trans thing. And the person said that

Speaker 6: they were cathering

Speaker 71: petitions against the use of

Speaker 6: flock cameras that sit over top a community, read license plates, report on where cars are parked. Somebody jump in and

Speaker 125: tell me what your reaction is to this and kind of how it merges with the risks of an AI surveillance

Speaker 126: state. I mean, it's not just tracking cars. They have them in parks. They have them on nature trails. They have them in hiking areas. They have them anywhere people

Speaker 10: might happen to be. This is mass surveillance from our worst Orwellian nightmares, powered by your friend, AI. David's friend, AI. What

a

Speaker 127: geez, Pearson. Our biggest AI advocate on the show. Hey, listen, when they come to take over the world, they'll be my friends, at least. That's right, that's right. Say

Speaker 129: that a little louder into the

Speaker 127: robot. As they're

Speaker 132: plugging

Speaker 133: him into the Matrix, and he's slipping away from consciousness perpetually to power the machines, you'll hear Pearson going

Speaker 132: David, wait, I was wrong

I

Speaker 7: don't know that the robots

will

Speaker 7: find Pearson in the first wave he'll be out in a field in

Speaker 116: Ohio but but but continue with the

Speaker 134: concern no I mean the concern is obvious we're where is our privacy and who's overseeing this and who voted for it I didn't vote for it city councils are voting for

Speaker 10: yeah well that I mean there's one of the major problems as well like this is an unimplemented and unvoted for process that is taking away our rights and a lot of people have no idea it's even

Speaker 15: happening they don't know what to look for where they are although I will say it's hilarious and I'm loving this well There is a growing trend around the United States and Europe, actually, of

Speaker 136: these Flock cameras mysteriously being cut down and destroyed and vandalized

Speaker 100: I hope both you and Dan Ball have an alibi. Maybe you could be each other's alibi. Our terrific colleague Dan Ball

Speaker 137: Real America, 8 o'clock. I will say I actually haven't seen one yet. A fly? Yeah. I haven't noticed

one in a

Speaker 138: while. Oh, no, there's one right over my house. And my wife is the quintessential suburban white woman. And she's like, you know what? If nobody's doing anything

Speaker 102: wrong, why are we working? What if the baby wanders away? We would immediately have a record of everything going on. This is wonderful, she would say

Speaker 140: But that's the issue here. The question is, was that fly camera there before you moved in? Yeah, well

Speaker 141: Right, right. They said

Speaker 142: oh, good, this drone was getting tired. No, but the reality is, and this is the problem

Speaker 47: Well, I'll give you my legal problem with it first Is that you don't need a warrant to actually get the data From the FLOC cameras And the data has been used A different legal standard The data has been used to go and investigate crimes Well, now you're gathering evidence Without a warrant It's almost like it's FISA

Speaker 44: But the reason why it's allowed Is because these are private companies Who are putting cameras out under contract And the idea is here, you can get traffic data you can get information about volume of cars, There's other things the Flock cameras

Speaker 40: Oh, urban planning. - Exactly. So there's innocent ways the Flock cameras can be used. And, but since you have it, do you mind running license-- - When is power ever used innocently? - Well, this is what I'm saying. And now since you have that data city of whatever, I'm so-and-so police department. Would you mind giving me license plate data for this person? I'm just trying, oh yeah, sure, no problem. And they could just give it over. There's no warrant requirements. And the private companies, They're not in the obligation to keep your privacy. You don't have a contract with that private company. It's a huge privacy concern. However, they also, if a kid wanders off, we can find him. If somebody is captured or kidnapped, we

Speaker 145: can find him. There is value. If we had flock cameras in Nancy Guthrie's

Speaker 146: neighborhood, we'd probably know

Speaker 40: a lot more. So maybe, and look, there's a Charlie Kirk trial playing out right now, and there's a lot of surveillance videos that dispelled a lot of

Speaker 147: the conspiracies about whether or not this guy was there or not. There's flock cameras there. Maybe we'd have more data, wouldn't you

take us along the

Speaker 147: to find them. - So are

you

Speaker 47: for them? - I'm for them if they are extremely regulated. And that is

Speaker 40: if any of the data off of them-- - Like FISA. - FISA has value too, though. Like I'm not against FISA. I'm against FISA without a warrant requirement

Speaker 89: if it's

Speaker 148: buying on Americans

Yeah, as it

Speaker 148: is. - But FISA is really good at stopping terrorists. - That's the right take. - So the things we can't do is go, well, I really am worried about my privacy, therefore let's just completely be naive to the

Speaker 47: fact that there's value. Or we could say, This is power, and that power has to be reined in with oversight. And that oversight looks like a warrant requirement. Of course, if you're going to take data off, how's that data

Speaker 149: used? Does it be sold to advertisers? I

Speaker 150: wonder, could it be subpoenaed by, like, private sector litigants? I wonder. Like, if people are going through a dissolution of marriage, can you subpoena the flock camera

Speaker 152: to see, like, you know, where your wife's been off to or who's been tipping to your house while you're off for it? Unless

Speaker 153: there's a law that would suggest otherwise or an evidentiary ruling

Speaker 45: Why wouldn't they? They don't have any—they're not the government. - Well, now courts can maybe limit ruling that that evidence is

intimism

Speaker 45: and then we'd have case law at least. But why would they? Well, I know that's the point. If you could

Speaker 154: subpoena Ring, it's no different

Speaker 60: than Ring. It's exactly like Ring. It's industrialized Ring at massive scale into systems that can ingest this AI and that are explicitly telling you they're

Speaker 89: collecting big data and aggregating them. And how many people opted in to what is that on Ring? While the cameras work together, the fine things, they advertise it at the Super Bowl. How many people are like, oh, this is great. My dog is missing. Remember? You have the missing dog and they found the missing dog because all these

Speaker 43: people work together to share

their stories

Speaker 43: their ring data to find this person's missing dog. And it made us feel really good about the surveillance in your home. I mean, if you have a camera in your home, outside of

Speaker 51: your home, there's, and that's the thing, Matt, and then I'll land on that point. We already have flock cameras everywhere. They're on your laptops. They're on your phone. They're in your house. They're on your doorbell. The cameras are everywhere. These are just new

Speaker 19: cameras. And so the question is, what regulations are we gonna put in place to restrict the data from that camera being used and all cameras being used

Speaker 100: I don't know that, there's a Viable regulatory fix because I've

Speaker 125: never seen technology successfully constrained by regulation

Speaker 71: I really haven't I mean, maybe there's someone's got a got a perfect way to weave it together. I don't But I also think these type of moments do create a bit of a cultural and

Speaker 57: societal backlash like there will be a huge aftermarket value for the for the old Jeep that you can't hit with a kill switch from

Speaker 157: Washington, D.C. - That you happen to drive as well. - Yeah, got one of those. I mean, this

Speaker 11: is 2027, you know, next year, all cars in the U.S. are gonna be equipped with kill switches, you know? This is what Thomas Massey's been telling

Speaker 159: us. - Yeah, but not the one I'm driving, but I mean-- - Well, exactly, all new cars. - But David's making a very interesting

Speaker 71: argument, which is this is all inevitable. It's inevitable because you have data brokers, because of Alexa and Siri and the way that people's AI searches are contributing to machine learning. So you can't escape the ecosystem. And so if it is upon us one way or the other, why not use it for the things that improve our safety? I have a feeling Pearson

Speaker 160: Sharp, who will get the last word on this, will have

Speaker 161: a contrarian

take

Speaker 161: Those who would trade their freedom for safety deserve neither

Speaker 162: Bringing out some Thomas Jefferson

Speaker 163: Yeah. There we go. A little TJ for us. Yeah

Speaker 71: Now, I also want to get to a little news on Capitol Hill this week. Where in the world is Mitch McConnell? This is a strange fact pattern. I think we know where. And obviously, Mitch McConnell, I mean, I will acknowledge Mitch McConnell and his staff, because I don't know that he was really with it, but McConnell et al., which is a web

of

Speaker 71: lobbyists, influence peddlers, disingenuous media personalities like Scott Jennings. They were committed to my defeat of my nomination for attorney general. So I've got no soft spot in my heart for Mitch McConnell. Frankly, I wish I could have shown him out the door with Kevin McCarthy when

Speaker 83: I was in Congress. But I obviously hope that he's not dead or permanently

Speaker 6: incapacitated. I don't wish that... even on my enemies but is it weird that like you're getting the the scott

Speaker 162: jennings i talked to mitch mcconnell for 20 minutes and you know he had all these these hot takes do you do you read that as true are you buying it i don't

Speaker 28: buy that at all no i i think

Speaker 11: he's like some of the reports we've heard laura loomer he's brain dead i think he's been brain dead for years personally but he's

And his

Speaker 11: position right now raises a lot of questions about accountability in the Senate and how we should handle these situations because

you know

Speaker 11: jokes aside, it's pretty clear that he's not been physically fit for the job for years, you know

Speaker 165: You're saying he's not a spry 84? Yeah

Speaker 15: exactly. And, you know, all these takes and stuff, like, we need to have a much more rigorous accountability

Speaker 10: for the health and capabilities of our leaders. Like, this is not a man who can lead. Why has he been allowed to maintain his position other than the fact that he is Mitch McConnell

Speaker 33: at all, writ large, and he has this power around him that protects him from his circumstances

Speaker 166: That's not acceptable

It's

Speaker 166: almost Biden-esque, like in a way. - Exactly. It's exactly the same thing. - There's so many people who have a stake like they're

Speaker 71: And keeping him going. - Yeah, their economic fortunes are tied to him where that gets decentralized and kind of split up and absorbed

Speaker 167: by other Washington power centers if he ceases to be, even like a you know a an or

Speaker 114: he has so many hangers-ons you know that that they would all be out of their positions they would lose their advantages he was to go

so

Speaker 6: David one of the reasons I look up to you you're a great husband you're a great father you got a happy marriage so God forbid God forbid something happens to you at your home you're found unconscious CPR is administered to to to work to revive you you are in the hospital and

Speaker 57: your wife is on a work trip in another country yeah uh how many more meetings

Speaker 169: do you think she would take in that country with other foreign people before returning home to care for you well i

Speaker 170: would never have to fall ill and need cpr because i get my vitamins at

Speaker 139: all family pharmacy there you go but but uh Should I not have taken care of my health

Speaker 19: using that important promo code? Yeah, I don't think she would be like, "Yeah, I'm gonna stay in China." The interesting part about it was that she said, there was nothing

Speaker 43: requiring me to return

Speaker 171: immediately, which doesn't really break up the rumor, right? Because, well, if he's dead or brain dead, well, sure, what's the rush, it's not changing. They call

it a

Speaker 171: persistent vegetative state for

Speaker 47: something, right? I really want to, I really wish, I

Speaker 19: could just accept Jennings and Thune's reports because it was multiple people, by the way, that spoke to him for 20 minutes. And by the

Speaker 172: way, there are two people who owe their power to Mitch McConnell

Speaker 171: Right, right, right. And they all spoke to him. And they all spoke to him the same day and had the same conversations. Oh, Mitch just woke up out

of the bed

Speaker 87: and was like, how is things going with Iran and that main case, that Plattner guy? Yeah, that's the first thing. Not where's my wife. It's how's Graham Plattner doing that

So I

Speaker 47: don't buy the story. I wish I could. And the fact that I can't, by the story that the leader of the senate and a reporter on cnn that they're telling the fact that i can't believe the leader of the senate or a reporter on cnn that they actually talked to a sitting senator really says a lot about where we are as a nation right to believe

Speaker 89: that our politicians and our leaders in our media would lie to us about somebody being alive or functional for what purpose and so even post-bite because i thought

Speaker 88: we got that through our system right and so the fact and so where we are right now is the fact that half of

Speaker 87: us think either McConnell's dead or brain dead the other half were like oh yeah well you know kevin i mean uh john theune spoke to him he's good he's good scott jenny says he's good so i'm sure he's fine none of us actually believe that but here's the bigger question

Speaker 88: if that's true if we don't believe that he's just fine the bigger question is how are we okay with this conspiracy to pretend he's fine just to keep the people of kentucky from being able to replace him

Speaker 87: right just so we can't pass the Save America Act just so we can't secure our elections before the midterms. Now that is bigger than MKUltra! And the fact that we're just like, "Eh, whatever, they lie to us, it's all good." That's the part that bothers me more than his wife going to China and hanging out for extra dim sum

Speaker 174: And he's... nice. Uh, he's, uh... Just

Speaker 21: for the record, I hope that if that ever happened to me, my wife would come back. I don't think it makes me a weaker

Speaker 136: man to hope she'd be there. No, of course not. Why would it? That's a normal human

Speaker 11: reaction

I

Speaker 11: think his wife and him probably have a sham relationship and she uses him to push China's lobbies into America. Pearson is, of course

Speaker 175: expressing an opinion right now. Exactly what she's doing right

Speaker 15: now. Taking a meeting with the vice president of China. Yeah, that's exactly what she's doing

This is

Speaker 15: an ongoing problem. We have leaders who are not in office taking care of their business, taking care of our nation. What was that, what's-his-bucket, the congressman who couldn't be in office for five

Speaker 176: months because he

Speaker 177: was depressed. You

Speaker 176: know, what is that garbage? Thomas Keene, Republican congressman. Get back to work, man. If you're too

Speaker 6: sad to be in office, get out. John Fetterman had to miss sometime in the Senate because he was suffering from depression and got inpatient treatment at Walter Reed so you're wait wait you're saying you're saying that you expect people to just to

Speaker 178: plow through it huh yeah or

Speaker 176: get out we need competent strong leaders we don't need weak leaders like this is a basic basic fundamental concept we can't

Speaker 22: be led by people who are not present

We

Speaker 22: have a lot of listeners who have gone through depression that hate listening to this program

Speaker 180: and you're going to get some comments on

Speaker 22: this. I

Speaker 179: understand that, but they're not leading our nation. Like, I have sympathy for depression. You know what

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Speaker 15: the point is I have sympathy for people who have mental illness, but that, I think, is a disqualifying factor to lead the nation. you know, take care of your illness, take care of your disability, whatever it is, but you should not be in charge of our country

Speaker 27: You know what is so lovely about that sentiment? It is

Speaker 71: appropriately selfish. A citizen of this country has a right

to say, I

Speaker 71: want you to focus on me and my needs. And I felt the weight of that obligation when I was in public life. I didn't make every right decision on every bill, probably over 14 years

but I

Speaker 71: really felt the obligation to make it about the folks who had that very expectation you have. And we've got this whole class of politicians who kind of want to make it about, you know, these broader themes or these virtue signals or strangers in a strange land. and I think that that is a

Speaker 6: path to political ruin because when people are alone and they are voting they are voting for the person who they believe will fight for them i think that is that that is the core question that uh that is being asked so david i know you talk a lot on your program about the midterms give us give us a little taste of just kind of where you see things right now because we've

Speaker 125: talked about the implosion of platner seems to bode well for republicans in the senate we've seen uh in texas how tal rico has kind of been

Speaker 71: exposed as a fake texan and not aligned with Texan values. So are you feeling a little more bullish or does this extended

Speaker 4: conflict in Iran give you some hesitation

Speaker 45: Well, that does give me hesitation. I'm not bullish until the Save America Act gets passed. And that's the tell for me, the little button that

Speaker 47: pops up out of the turkey when the turkey's overcooked. The tell for me is if we can get the Save America Act passed. If we can get the Save America Act passed, that signals to me that the GOP establishment, that President Trump, that everybody and why everybody's working together to get a legislative goal across the finish line for us. Right, if they can't see that piece of legislation get across the finish line to the president's desk, what that tells me is that the GOP establishment is perfectly happy with losing the midterms

Speaker 44: And if that's their take, then no, I don't have a lot of confidence because the president certainly is focused on saving the House and the Senate and in the midterms, clearly. It's the Senate Republicans that can't find a vacation they're not fond of. You know, they can't even pass Melania's Fostering Our Future Act

This

Speaker 87: was a bipartisan bill passed out of the House that the Senate couldn't even take up. So I

Speaker 47: don't have a lot of confidence that we're working together the way we need to when the Democrats are. Now, there's

Speaker 87: some fracturing with the Democratic Socialists of America and we can sit back and go, "Woohoo, this is good. They don't like those commies

But

Speaker 47: they're winning, though. The communists are winning, and the Democrats like Gavin Newsom are going, okay, I can sound like one of them. They're chameleons. They just want to

stay in power. And

Speaker 47: what they have is a ground game, and what we don't have is a unified message right now

Response to that. We

Speaker 47: have half the party pro-Iran, a pro-Iranian war. Half the party split over Israel. We have half the party split on Epstein still. We have the party split on gas prices. We have the party split on how Charlie Kirk was assassinated, for God's sakes. And so when we have this— And we're

Speaker 179: in charge of everything, and we can't pass the sanctions. Exactly

Speaker 47: Exactly. We can't pass the SAVE Act. We

Speaker 147: can't come together on what's important

Speaker 44: So why should voters give us another chance? I don't think... No, voters know they should give us another chance. I think what it is is we don't have a common enemy at the moment. We have too many enemies. When Biden was

Speaker 47: president, it was clear the enemy was the people trying to put us in jail, and Joe Biden wasn't in charge, so whoever was in charge, we had to beat them. We were unified on that. We had friends in jail. We had January 6th friends in jail. The

Speaker 182: enemy is going to be the Democrat Socialists, dude. Yes

Speaker 88: but they're not doing anything to us right now, and that's the problem. - No, the enemy to us

right now

Speaker 88: right now is us. - The rhinos. - Our enemy's the rhino, but the rhino's enemy is Trump. - But you know

Speaker 183: Joe Schmoe American, who wants to take back our country, who does he vote for? - This is why I love our

Speaker 184: conversations with you guys. David Pollack just gave an impassioned plea for Republican unity, directly followed by Pearson saying, we

Speaker 7: need a rhino hunt

Speaker 150: Well look

Speaker 176: we've got McConnell, we've got Thune, we've got all these people who are supposed to be fighting for us, they're on our side, supposedly got the R next to their name

Who

Speaker 176: do people like us vote for

I

Speaker 71: think you've both tapped in on a restlessness that exists within the base that has to be dealt with. Passing the Save America Act is one way to deal with that restlessness, getting that unified enemy, getting that message out

And

Speaker 186: frankly, I think rising economic conditions, which would have been a lot easier without this war

in

Speaker 100: my opinion

Amen

Speaker 100: That is the end of our hour. Thank you both so much for joining me for it. And you can

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