Matt Gaetz — The Anchormen Show EP 145 - LooksMaxxing After Israel

Speaker 1: now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and pearson shark

Welcome

Speaker 3: back to The Anchorman Show. I'm Matt Gaetz, host of The Matt Gaetz Show here on One American News every

Speaker 4: weeknight, nine o'clock Eastern, six o'clock Pacific. And I am joined by my good buddies, Pearson

Speaker 5: Sharp and David Pollock. We are comfy cozy today, hanging out here at the One American News mothership in San Diego as we break down some of the stuff we've been following and covering. And what a week. It's been a week of condolences and mourning over the loss of

The

Speaker 5: late

Speaker 6: senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, somebody I knew, spent time with, negotiated a number of pieces of legislation with. Pearson, you have been following

Speaker 7: this, and there are a few elements of Senator Graham's legacy that you want to bring to our attention

W

Speaker 8: Well, first, I wanna give condolences to Israel for losing their senator. That's really a shame. He was a senator for 23 years, and I guess

Speaker 9: that's God's term limit. But I'd like to know because you actually knew him, candidly speaking, what was he like behind

the

Speaker 10: scenes? - An operator. Lindsey Graham was an absolute operator. He knew the politics of the Senate. He knew the

Speaker 11: personalities. He was everybody's friend, even the people who criticized

Speaker 4: him publicly

I

Speaker 4: remember one time he said to me, he said, "Matt, you're going to love me these next two years." I said, "Why is that, Lindsay?" He said

Speaker 12: Because I'm in cycle

You see, in

Speaker 12: the house, you don't talk in cycle, out of cycle. You're always running

Speaker 11: In cycle means you're facing the voters. Lindsay said, "Matt, you'll love me the two years when I'm in cycle, and you won't love me as much the four years when I'm not in cycle

Speaker 12: There was no pretense. uh it's just candor it was who he was but i think we've

Speaker 6: got a clip of uh some of senator graham's thoughts on on israel yeah it's just

Speaker 13: it was just incredible i came across it when i was researching you know going behind the scenes there's this horrible hurricane just setting the stage flooding all across south carolina just terrible suffering for the people in his state and he gets on camera and they ask him well we'll see it but his immediate response is he turns it directly to israel it's incredible we should

Speaker 14: watch the clip

God

Speaker 14: bless you, but

Speaker 15: look, you know, I've been going all over South Carolina, like most people hadn't slept much, but look what's going on in Israel. Our friends in Israel are surrounded by people that want to kill them, destroy them, a second Holocaust in the making, and Biden says, be proportional. What is the proportional response to people who want to kill you and your family? They're running out of ammunition in Israel. We have to help our friends to keep the war over there from coming

Speaker 12: here. The world is

S

Speaker 12: So David Pollack, does that argument survive to this day? Even in the absence of Senator Graham

do

Speaker 16: you expect there will be plenty of people saying the fate and fortune of the United States is inexorably tied to that of Israel

Well

Speaker 17: look, they called him one of the last remaining great war hawks. You know

Speaker 18: Lindsay couldn't find a war he didn't like. And it's hard to speak about somebody after they're gone, but we have to do it, right? We have to be fair

But I

Speaker 18: think that is his M.O. He wanted he he thought Israel was our greatest ally and the war funding and fighting with them as our ally. That was Lindsey Graham. I mean, that was what his experience was when he was in the Senate. That's what you would expect from a war hog. Now, you can criticize it. And look, we're in a new age of reevaluating we people are reevaluating the relationship between United States and Israel, Looking at the aid, looking at the military partnership, we'll talk about that later, and looking at it a little bit differently. differently than maybe some of

Speaker 19: the senior senators of the past. And so I think it's easy to look at it through today's lens and say, yep, he was all Israel. But I think in reality, he represents an era of government that looked at Israel a little bit differently. I don't think it questions his allegiance to the country. I think it just discusses an era of mindset that maybe it's time to revisit. Maybe it's

Speaker 20: not. But I think he represents that era. I mean, is it an

era

Speaker 21: though, Pearson? Because I see a lot of the new

Speaker 22: ones getting elected having a similar worldview, you at least voting yeah they do but i wanted to bring up about

Speaker 9: him 14 of people in south carolina live below the poverty line right and there was a great clip i don't think we have it but a great

Speaker 23: clip of him going you know i i come to israel every two weeks whether i need to or not right you

Speaker 24: know like what what the hell is that all about the people of israel didn't elect him but you

Speaker 25: think do you think that lindsey graham had more allegiance to the people of israel than he did of south carolina i mean is that your

take Well, he

Speaker 23: certainly voted every chance he got to help them, at our expense

Speaker 26: How so

Speaker 27: Like, how at our expense

Speaker 23: Supporting our tax dollars going over there, supporting wars for them, you know, sending us

Speaker 26: to Iran to fight. Like, he's the number one proponent for getting us into the war with Iran. But he was also heavily involved in ending the war between Russia

Speaker 29: and Ukraine. So, I mean

H

Speaker 29: He started the war between

Speaker 30: Russia and Ukraine. - This is breaking news. - No, he

Speaker 29: was trying to end it. That was his last trip. He was meeting with Zelensky. He was working to end, well

Speaker 31: arguably working to end the war. - Traveling to a drone facility to end the war? - Well, it's not a drone facility anymore. - That's a fair point. It

Speaker 32: was taken out

Speaker 33: by the Russians. - I want to put this up. We've got a headline here from a story

And

Speaker 33: this is just incredible. Lindsey Graham pushed

Speaker 34: for a U.S. war against Iran while acknowledging that U.S. soldiers in the region could get hit by Iranian counterattacks, a risk he said was worth it. Could our soldiers be hit in the region? Absolutely they could. Could Iran respond if we have an all-out

Speaker 35: attack

Speaker 36: Absolutely they can

Speaker 35: Graham said during a press briefing at the Camp Kempinski Hotel in Tel Aviv. I do think we have

that clip

Speaker 37: Could our soldiers be hit in the region? Absolutely they could. can iran respond if we have an all-out attack absolutely they can i think the risk associated that with that is far less than the risk associated with blinking and pulling the plug and not helping the people as you promised i'm

Speaker 38: guessing the people he was referencing there weren't south carolinians

Speaker 39: yeah yeah exactly well he went david

Why do

Speaker 39: you blame it, David

Speaker 40: Yeah, I have nothing to do with it. But he's not Lindsey Graham's press secretary

Speaker 28: And I'm not an apologist for Lindsey Graham. I am not a fan of – I wasn't ever. You can go and check my social media. I've never

Speaker 41: ever promoted sending money to Ukraine. I've been against it from the beginning. I'm just suggesting – Or Israel for Iran. Well, again, I'm a little wishy. I'm not the same on that one because I believe that Israel

I don't want to

Speaker 41: go down the road yet because something very significant happened and we'll get to it

Speaker 19: when we get to it with respect to our Arab partners actually stepping up when they needed to so we don't have to rely on Israel as much. But with respect to Lindsay, I mean, look, I do think

he was a

Speaker 19: little loose and free with our military members. And he's like, oh, yeah, people go and die. People go and fight. But he also served. So, I mean, he's not a total hypocrite. But I don't think we should send our military into harm's way. But it's not about what I think. It's about what Lindsay Graham thought

And I

Speaker 19: don't think his allegiance was to a foreign government. I think, His allegiance was to America and he believed that that foreign policy was good for America. I don't know I don't necessarily agree with it. I just don't

Speaker 43: challenge his allegiance I think it was to the deep state and the defense contractors I mean when I was doing

Speaker 44: there is this I don't know if it was that Pearson and it is well It is uncomfortable to question people's motives especially after their

Speaker 45: passing, but I will say broadly in the Congress

Speaker 4: They get this kind of imperial sense of self, right? They travel to these other countries. They are

Speaker 46: greeted. They think they're

Speaker 47: gods. They think they're gods. And adulation from the courts of kings and

Speaker 48: emirs and these foreign, it becomes very addicting, right? That these foreign leaders kind of

Speaker 11: put you on this pedestal

as a

Speaker 11: member of the global ruling class. And again, not saying this was Lindsey Graham's motivation, And I do think he sincerely held all these views supporting like 10 of the last three wars. But that

Speaker 48: sense is negative. It's a negative force

Speaker 12: on our country because it does create a real divide between lawmakers and the people they're supposed to be serving in their own communities

Speaker 49: And that, I think, is a great point because it's really

Speaker 9: interesting... All the headlines and all the politicians and all the people coming out saying he was a wonderful, he was a statesman, he was a friend of everyone, God bless him, rest him, da-da-da-da-da. If you go on Twitter

if you

Speaker 9: look at what Facebook is saying, if you look at what

Speaker 34: people are saying, everybody hated him. everybody couldn't stand him they are jumping for joy one guy said we got mcconnell and graham in one year can you believe it now let's go for thune like the common man

Speaker 50: hates these people because they disregard us and they treat us like garbage they send our money overseas

Speaker 22: and start wars that we don't want well i i can assure

Speaker 51: you that when my time to cross the big bridge comes to the sky there will not be the uh the universal

Speaker 53: expressions of gratitude from uh from my no but i think that's - That's an

Speaker 9: important point to acknowledge. the divide between the reception of this news. And I'm not dancing on his grave, I'm not doing that. I'm not mourning his loss. I don't think he was a positive for America, but I think it's

Speaker 54: interesting to see how real people feel about this versus, of course, what the media and the other politicians say. - What makes you think they're real

people? I

Speaker 55: mean, just the average people online, just people commenting. I mean, who's

Speaker 56: real? Who's not? I don't know. But are you telling me BeachDude47 is not a real person? I mean

Speaker 28: I'm sure he is. I'm sure BeachDude47 is real, but maybe not BeachDude47. But

Speaker 19: here's the thing. It's easy for somebody to say something online. I've been critical of Lindsey Graham, but here's the thing. He's gone. He passed away, sadly. So you look back on his career, you don't, it's a different position. And here's the deal. I've worked in politics. Matt, you've been in so many campaigns, right? When

you're on

Speaker 19: the field, when you're in politics, when you're trying to affect policy, it's war. It's like being in a courtroom. You know, the guy across the aisle, he's not my friend. He's the adversary. I'm going to convince that jury that that guy is not only wrong, but you should hate him. But guess what? When the gavel is hammered, We'll go and get a drink together, and we'll fight another day. And that is what this country needs to learn how to do

You

Speaker 28: can say terrible things about Lindsey Graham when he's running for a primary. You can say he's awful. He loves Israel. But you know what? He died coming back from a trip overseas to serve the

Speaker 19: country, got off the phone with the president of the United States. He says, I'm going to get the Save America Act done for you. And then he passed away. So now isn't the time to spit on his grave. Now you go, okay, look, he served the country. We disagreed on politics, but let's move forward. What we lack in this country is the ability to separate

Speaker 58: the politics and from the people. and this guy's gone and we don't do that at all

Speaker 5: by the way yeah you're so that's such an astute observation that in the old days you might say well you know i i like the person but i don't like their policies right or you know what you know the other way around the contrapositive it is all blended now you are your policies and and pearson's kind of every man emotion about all this i

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Speaker 4: it's not just sort of the movement of humans around Capitol Hill we're watching. It's the movement of legislation. And I think that's what we want to get into The National Defense Authorization Act goes down in the Senate. They don't have the votes to proceed on to what

Speaker 12: is normally a very bipartisan bill. I've voted for almost all of them, I think. I've been a part of constructing a number of them. Republicans

Speaker 5: and Democrats usually do work together on this stuff. Not getting that in the House of Representatives, Congresswoman Luna, always creative, puts the

Speaker 10: Save America Act on the state and foreign operations funding bill. What are you watching on the Hill, David

Speaker 61: Yeah

Speaker 18: I'm not shocked. The only thing that surprised me today, not that it went down in the Senate or it's going to go down in the Senate, what surprised me today was John Thune blaming Democrats. Because his tune this entire time has been like, well, there isn't the votes. There isn't the votes. We don't have the votes. And almost was like, we're not going to take it up. He hasn't pointed the finger across the aisle and was like, those people are the reasons not passing. He did with this. And so I don't know if his tune is changing on it. I thought that

Speaker 19: was interesting. He's almost softening up. He's almost like digging in for a fight. Now, look, you've seen Senator

Speaker 18: Scott say basically the, and Mike Lee, Senator Lee, he said, we shouldn't recess until the Save America Act is done. Will John Thune

Speaker 63: pick that up? I don't know. But he is showing a fight that I haven't seen before. The House for the fourth time now has given the Senate the ability to figure

Speaker 19: out how to pass the Save America Act. They can't figure out how to do it on their own. Maybe John Thune's coming around. That was my piece of encouragement today. I spoke to Congressman Mills on my show, and he

Speaker 18: said, look, we're going to come at this at every single angle, whether it's Reconciliation 3.0, whether it's sending in different kinds of legislation that's tied to it. We're not going to stop trying to get this thing passed. And with the margins they have, they're still able to get it passed. So I think the House is going to keep fighting

Speaker 64: I think John Thune eventually is going to find the pressure within his own caucus to figure out how to get this thing at least up for a vote

That's

Speaker 65: the Save America Act. - The NDAA could be, Every Democrat in the Senate voted against

Speaker 45: proceeding onto the National Defense Authorization Act. There's a lot of good in that bill. Starts of new programs we need, pay raises for our troops. 3.6

Speaker 5: research, development, test, and evaluation apparatus into the IDF, into the Israeli Defense Forces. A lot of Democrats spoke to this as one of the reasons why they were not willing to proceed on to this bill. Pearson Sharp, were you cheering

Speaker 6: on Democrats blocking the NDAA

Speaker 67: It's a weird day when you're glad. You are all torn up. It's a weird day. I'm conflicted. Yeah, I'm not sure

Speaker 13: what's

up or down anymore

Speaker 13: But it's good that we stopped that aspect of it. I agree there are other aspects that should pass. It's crazy

how

Speaker 68: much it jumped. Like at 50% doubling, that's insane. That's insane. I don't think we need that. I don't think our military needs that personally. So you have

Speaker 69: a problem with the top, not just some of the provisions of the bill, but the overall top line spending number would cause you to hit the pause button

Speaker 35: Yeah, it would. And it's not because I don't think the military should be funded. I absolutely think that it should

But

Speaker 13: I think that And this is something I'm sure you saw and others could speak to much more intelligently with awareness on, but the wasteful spending, the contracts, the military contracts and the defense contractors who just throw away our money on projects that shouldn't be spent

And

Speaker 9: I think if we refined that, if we used our money more efficiently, we wouldn't need $1.5 trillion

So I

Speaker 9: think a lot of that

Speaker 13: money is wasted, and intentionally so, because they can. We do need more missiles. We do need more planes. We do need better weapons for our troops. Our troops should be paid more. I agree with all of that. We should be able to defend ourselves. But this is kind of insane. You know what they

Speaker 70: have said to me, the folks at the Pentagon, when I've pressed

Speaker 71: them on this through the years? They say, Matt... The Pentagon is not built to be efficient. It is built to win the wars. And in any war you waste

Speaker 5: half the money, you just don't know which half, kind of until you get to the end. Now, I often say we've been on a bit of a losing streak lately

Speaker 12: under Biden and Obama and Bush. We toiled around places without the taste of victory. But David, do you buy the argument

Speaker 11: that maybe separate and distinct from the Department of Education

or

Speaker 11: or the Department of Labor, EPA. We can forgive some inefficiencies in exchange for

Speaker 33: success. - Hang on, I do wanna add, wasn't it that the Pentagon has never passed an audit? Like ever? - No, never. - Ever

Speaker 73: Yes. - That's not acceptable for anybody

but the Pentagon

Speaker 73: That shouldn't be

Speaker 51: the case. - My favorite, and I do want David's reaction, but my favorite one we found was like, they'd spent something

like

Speaker 51: 40 million dollars on eight goats." And you know clearly that was just on paper

Speaker 74: That's my example. - They were bribing some

Speaker 51: guy. - There was

Speaker 75: another one. It was like 200 billion dollars disappeared like four or five times in the last 10 years or something. And every time it was

Speaker 34: like, "Oh, we don't know." And then it just, the story disappeared. No one questioned

it

Speaker 76: That's my problem. - 1.5 trillion for defense. Pollock, you in

or out

Speaker 61: I'm in. You know, some of these programs

are

Speaker 61: not eight

Speaker 19: goats, but they're a great way to fund the programs with eight goats. And there's a lot of things we don't, remember, all of our appropriations are public. So sometimes overpaying for eight goats that allows us to have something sneaky that saves lives, you know, I'm not going to question

Speaker 78: the people that let us sleep at night without having to worry about something exploding over our heads. And if they say need the money, they need the money. Unfortunately, this is one of those areas where you have to trust the government because

Speaker 29: there's certain things

Speaker 79: we, I hate it, I get it, I know, but at some point... Your sweet blood pressure right now is 200 over one child. But

Speaker 78: sometimes, like you said, whether it's... You can look at education, look at the Fed

Speaker 80: all that

Speaker 19: stuff

Speaker 78: All the ones that are

Speaker 19: failing, sure. But when you get... Oh, it's government, you know? So let's give them more money. Yeah, but when you get to the Pentagon, the last thing you want to do is tell people that are like, hey, listen, we got your back, to go, yeah, prove it. Let me... Why did you... The last thing we need to do is start questioning the people

Speaker 82: that keep us safe. And

I

Speaker 82: It's hard. - The same people who brought you MKUltra. Yes, let's give them

Speaker 83: one

Speaker 19: Well

Speaker 84: There we go

Speaker 19: No, it's not that simple. Unfortunately, the thing is, the reason why no country is invading our borders, the reason why we're able to win these conflicts with minimal service members losing their lives is because we have a well-funded military. And when President Trump

I agree

Speaker 19: I voted for President Trump three times. I believe President Trump as commander in chief goes, "This is what I need from our military. "We need these ships, we need these weapons." And I don't think President Trump As a successful businessman, somebody who doesn't like to waste money, is looking at this saying, yeah, yeah, they're wasting money. If he says to Congress, I need this money, he must think it's for a good reason. I trust the president. And then that's where I go with this. And I don't think it's going to be effective to tie Trump's hands behind his back when he's trying to do a lot of things with our military. It's the last thing we need. We already have the Congress voting to strip his war powers. The last thing we need

Speaker 86: to do is have Congress strip his budget, too

Speaker 87: Well, they're not going to strip his budget. They're just going to pare it down to something maybe more reasonable. But reasonable

Speaker 88: to who

I

Speaker 88: Iran! - Exactly! Al-Qaeda

Speaker 33: Pentagon should be funded. I agree. We'll set that aside. - I

Speaker 89: won. - Not to

Speaker 33: that

Speaker 13: extent. So this NDAA to merge our military with Israel, that's terrifying

And

Speaker 9: you look at some of the stuff that they want to merge. So the Pentagon basically appoint an executive agent whose job would be to synchronize cooperation with Israel across the

Speaker 13: Defense Department. The latitude of that position is just astonishing. So he would be directed to identify Israeli or jointly

Speaker 9: develop technology for incorporation into official U.S. weapon systems, move projects from research, Pentagon procurement, establish joint ventures, promote joint exercises. But the integration is... - Extremely comprehensive. The covered fields are very broad. It would include drones and counter drone systems, tunnels and subterranean warfare, missiles and air defense, artificial intelligence, quantum computing, autonomous weapons, directed energy weapons, biotechnology, cyber warfare, battlefield networks, defense manufacturing, and the best one, any additional field mutually agreed upon. by Washington and Israel. So just leave the door open for anything and everything they could possibly

Speaker 90: want. - Anything we didn't think of after AI quantum robotics, nuclear, subterranean, sea-based land

Speaker 34: air

I

Speaker 34: wanna make the point that I agree, every nation, including Israel, has the right to defend itself

Speaker 68: That is totally appropriate. Israel and any nation does not have the right to demand that we defend them. And I think that's where we need to draw the

Speaker 4: line. - Who needs treaties if you have

this? mean

Speaker 4: that because they have they would have everything and I I think that we need continued cooperation with Israel I think there's sure benefit that comes to the United States from that but it

can be case

Speaker 4: by

Speaker 5: case ad hoc not this type of of broad fusion this

this is

Speaker 68: as the Pentagon raises the Israeli spy threat

As

Speaker 68: the NDA seeks deeper defense ties, the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency recently elevated Israel's counterintelligence

threat

Speaker 50: designation to critical, the highest level in its system

Well, I

Speaker 93: mean, what's friendship without a little bit of spying

Speaker 51: Yeah, sure. Exactly. David, is this overblown? I mean, this is a huge discussion online right now on the right

In a

Speaker 51: way, it's kind of interesting

Speaker 4: The Massey Amendment has divided Democrats. You had Hakeem Jeffries vote against the Massey Amendment, the top Democrat in the House, Catherine

Speaker 5: Clark. one of the members of their leadership voting with Thomas Massey. It's kind of all out on the game board

Speaker 95: now. How do you see it

Speaker 96: Yeah. And you don't have to disagree with me just to disagree

Speaker 86: with me. I mean, it's easy to disagree with you. I don't even have to try. No. Look, I don't see the, again, it

Speaker 97: all depends on how much you trust the relationship between the United States and Israel. And I think I probably sit on a different bench on this one. We're already giving them money

Speaker 64: for the weapons. Why not integrate with them? They're our biggest welfare recipient

Speaker 98: Well, yes, but they also serve a vital role And this is something hopefully we'll get to later. If not, let's

Speaker 97: just bring it up now. Who else can start this for us? With respect, well, because look what happened the other day when this war reignited. Last week on this show, we talked about what now, right? And you mentioned the

Speaker 63: memorandum being the best possible deal. I think a surprise deal happened with the Strait of Hormuz because Trump was like, I'm just going to charge a 20% toll for the safety and security of the Strait of Hormuz. And then a bunch of Arab nations say, wait a minute, I got a better idea. What if we just do deals with you

and we'll work

Speaker 63: together to kind of secure the strait. There's this weird alliance happening right now between the United States and our Arab partners that I didn't see

Speaker 97: coming. Maybe you did, but I didn't see it coming. But we might get out of this war with a closer relationship

Speaker 18: with the people that Iran used to have a closer relationship with. And at the end, they're further isolated. And the reason why I say this is we've had to have this special relationship with Israel because they were only ally in the region. But as we start to develop relationships with Oman and and I know the risks involved, but maybe we don't have to make them our biggest welfare recipient because there's other countries we can get along with. Turkey's a perfect example that maybe also protects our interests. And maybe this is a win-win for everybody. I don't know. Did you

Speaker 51: Wait, wait. Your argument is that emerging out of the rising

Speaker 4: escalatory

Speaker 99: ladder that we're on is going to be an Arab-enforced passageway through the Straits. That's

Speaker 100: what I'm hoping. It seems to be building. That is so naive, David. That is not happening. Hopeful. Optimistic, not naive

Speaker 71: Whoa, I don't know. don't even get the 20% tariff thing. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong and you can help me. But what does it matter if Iran is denying passage anyway? What this war has proven to me is both the United

Speaker 102: States and Iran can clog up the straits. So it becomes an exercise in who can endure the most pain. And

Speaker 21: I don't apologize for the fact that I don't want the people I love and care about, and I used to represent Congress, having to be in some pain threshold

Speaker 102: match with the 3,000-year-old civilization of Persia. They've proven they can withstand a lot of pain. I don't know why we have to withstand it. And I do worry that even if what you described happens, you've got another pinch point on the Straits off the coast of Yemen. Yeah. And

Speaker 4: I believe that if Iran has denial capability in the Straits of Hormuz, They'll just use the same tactics, and the same cheap drones, and the same technology to harass shipping, deny insurance coverage in the Straits out of the Red Sea. Now you've got a compounding problem. So I think this is going to get worse before it gets better. I think this is going to be more costly over time. And I still maintain

and I

Speaker 4: would welcome either of you to challenge me, I still maintain that the MOU that was negotiated represents the best terms for the united

Speaker 105: states to end this if iran was an

Speaker 78: honorable nation and would have abided by the terms of the you know i know the argument it you know israel still attacking lebanon and you know there's other

Speaker 107: that's a very significant

Speaker 108: argument right

Speaker 19: but israel didn't sign on that is the argument but but but the thing is iran is never going to abide by anything because at at any moment just like when they attacked those tanker ships

Speaker 109: they said oh they were rogue they were rogue because they just decided they were rogue well no

they were because

Speaker 110: they didn't use Iran-prescribed pathway

Speaker 111: where they could charge their toll and demand their extraction

Speaker 78: Right, but Iran will never play by the rules. I don't think any of us believe that Iran is going to go, cool, I'm good with this deal, let's call off the

Speaker 112: war and let's get along. No

I

Speaker 4: don't think Iran is here for the Mr. Congeniality Award at the UN. At the same time, one cannot deny that there was safe

Speaker 113: passage through these straits before this war. Well, how many times has the strait

of

Speaker 41: Hormuz been shut down before this war? - They were running pretty hard. But it keeps every

Speaker 97: time there's an opportunity for a conflict, Iran ceases to stray to four moves and disrupts the oil markets. I mean, this is just

Speaker 71: In the past, you know what we did? We sailed the Carl Vinson right in, and we parked it at Bahrain and said, we're here. And why do you think we haven't done that now, David? Because the force protection is a lot different right now. And these intrudable drones have... capability well but that is that is challenging

Speaker 106: us but yes but so that's the thing so

Speaker 18: we can't do that anymore so what is the next step do we we can't a regime change we've already discussed the challenges with regime change you regime change you don't know who you're getting you're just gonna have another problem with a different leader right when you know

Speaker 85: Israel do you give all the money to Israel Israel handle it for you do

Speaker 51: you take the Steve Bannon argument by the way what Bannon's argument is is actually don't give every don't give Israel any

Speaker 71: more money

or

Speaker 71: any more constraints and just let them do their thing. I don't think that's the right answer. And then we don't own it. Yeah, I disagree. I don't think that's the right answer. Well, it just won't result in peace

Speaker 58: No, and the United States will

get dragged

Speaker 58: back into it anyway. Yeah, you're right

Speaker 18: And so no matter what, there's going to inevitably be a conflict. When do you deal with it? How do you deal with it is what we have to figure out now. I think the only way to have any sort of lasting peace, because the Iranians are never going to agree to

deal or

Speaker 18: abide by it. Regime change isn't going to result in the outcome we want. We've seen this before. And Europe certainly is not gonna come to our age. So the only best-case

Speaker 63: outcome, because the MOU will never work because they're never going to abide by it, is going to be to have the people that sit around Iran, that keep getting the missiles lobbed at them, the Houthis keep attacking. I mean, the only best way we get out of this is not through Israel. It's through all of Iran's neighbors that think like they do, saying, you know what, Iran? We're done with your crap. It's not the United States that's done with your crap. It's not Israel that's done with your crap. We're done with your crap. And if that happens— It's not our problem anymore

Speaker 60: That's America first. Here's where I'll meet you on this argument. I think what you described is necessary but not sufficient

I think

Speaker 115: you have to have the

Speaker 12: allies there or this all falls apart, but I don't think it's enough

Speaker 60: without a cessation of hostilities. That's going to take a certain amount of carrot, a certain amount of stick

Speaker 116: Before we go on from the War Pearson final thought

on it? I'm

Speaker 117: just enjoying listening to the two of you make these arguments

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Speaker 84: ahead

I do

Speaker 84: want to ask you 'cause you're buddies with Massey. Guys go way back

Speaker 13: So he's passing, you know, trying to get this thing separated with Israel and

the NDAA

Speaker 13: But I

Speaker 9: noticed that the people who signed on with it were Ro Khanna. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts, Democrat, Jesus Garcia, Democrat of Illinois, and

Speaker 118: Rashid Tlaib, Democrat of Michigan. Why is it only Democrats who sign on? Why don't any Republicans? Because every single Republican voted-- - Voted

Speaker 119: against Massey's amendment. - Yeah, voted

Speaker 118: against it and voted to give aid to Israel. So why is it only Democrats who he can work with on this? That just blows my mind. I think Republicans

Speaker 4: are concerned what might happen to them after watching what happened to Thomas Massey. I mean, Thomas Massey just had tens of millions of dollars dumped on his head in Kentucky and lost a district that he'd won for more than a decade. And I think it is a function of political fear

I

Speaker 4: do wanna get to another

Speaker 120: big story exploding on the internet regarding a figure they call clavicular

Speaker 4: I had never heard of clavicular, but it is a thing. Now, this is a Gen Z influencer who is famous for something called looks maxing, and that is you do things to your body. Bruise yourself, chisel yourself, even

Speaker 5: break your legs

to

Speaker 5: have them grow back where you could be at a higher height, at a higher altitude. And so he's the looks-maxing guy. Gen Z loves him, and he

Speaker 4: gets into big controversy because in Miami

He

Speaker 4: goes to a nightclub in his 20s. Nick Fuentes is present, others are present, and they play a Kanye song that glorifies Hitler, something we, of course, would never do, and they're dancing and they're singing to the song. And afterwards, Clavicular gets all kind of criticism for it. But he goes to Israel. He goes to Israel and his

Speaker 11: whole plan, here he is in Tel Aviv, he says, I'm sorry, let's go to the Israel, this is Miami. Let's

go to

Speaker 11: the next one

So having a good

Speaker 6: time in Tel Aviv, as one does, and when he gets in front of an interview, this

Speaker 122: happens. We've just been in Tel Aviv for the past few days, but everything's been great

Speaker 123: Okay, I see. So you basically came here

to apologize? So

Speaker 124: we came here to explore Tel Aviv and kind of show that it's a really fun city. But

Speaker 125: you know what everybody in Israel is talking about right now, right? Well

everyone in Israel

Speaker 124: is talking about, you know, what we're doing that's good, you know. So for you to kind of start the interview off in like a negative manner doesn't really make sense. - But you surely understand

that people

Speaker 124: No, no

Speaker 127: no. Let me make you understand. I'm here for a good thing and you're trying to drag me through the mud and, you know, give me reputational damage. What's wrong with apologizing about singing Heil Hitler? No, no, this interview is over. Just apologize. Why don't you apologize to me for... Why don't you apologize

Speaker 130: Why don't you apologize to me for wasting my time? So this interview went very viral in Israel and then clavicular

Speaker 131: got a very different kind of treatment than he got in the Tel Aviv nightclubs. Tickles

Come

Speaker 132: it's okay. I'm your best entertainment in Israel. Come, come, come. So all of that

Speaker 135: culminates with Clav leaving early. Take a listen. Israel's

Speaker 136: PR has massively benefited from the fact that I'm here, right? The fact that people realize you can actually go clubbing and do relatively normal s***. over in Tel Aviv rather than it just being in a complete war zone right so that kind of thing happens

and then people

Speaker 136: are still negative to you here it almost wants to make you say well then I'm not gonna come back I didn't have to come here right I didn't have to at all I liked everyone I met here

for

Speaker 136: the most part, in terms of all the fans and all the regular people here have been quite lovely

But I

Speaker 136: have a jet back home tomorrow. So

Speaker 12: Pearson, this is why this is so wild to me. This is not a political person, obviously

It

Speaker 4: does not strike me as a high IQ person. But goes to Israel, they're having a great time, and it all becomes about politics and kind of cringe, and he leaves. What's your read

Super. - It's, I

Speaker 13: mean, it's really interesting and the repercussions didn't

Speaker 9: stop with him. 'Cause when we talked about this earlier, I started reading about it. And apparently there was an IDF soldier who was relieved of duty for hanging out with him. - I

think

Speaker 137: she might've been one of the individuals enjoying the nightclub experience

Speaker 9: She might've, yeah. So he documented himself with Shira Braun, an IDF soldier serving in the international branch of the spokesperson's unit. She was, let's see, she had suspended jail time. So they were looking at jail time for her, for hanging out with him. But that was suspended, thankfully. Disqualification from her military profession and dismissal from the IDF spokesperson's unit. After appearing before her commanders in a disciplinary hearing, she will no longer be allowed to serve as social media coordinator. She'll be transferred to another unit until the end of her service and could face actual prison sentence if she commits

Speaker 68: another disciplinary violation. So that's

Speaker 22: insane. Didn't Israel

mean

Speaker 22: missed the boat here, they could have welcomed the guy, he could have gone, had a great time, they could have said, look

Speaker 4: this is not a place where bombs are dropping everywhere, people are living normal

Speaker 138: lives, being happy, we're a safe, wonderful, accommodating country

Speaker 9: Look, it might be a valid point for someone in Israel to be like, hey, what was up with that in the club? Why are you singing that song? 'Cause that's like a reasonable conversation you can have with someone person to person. - Well

Speaker 90: I wanna get to that

I wanna get to

Speaker 90: that because David, what accountability

do

Speaker 4: you believe a white man in his 20s should have for the hip-hop or rap music that he sings along to? Because some of the outcast that I sang in the early aughts was horrid

Speaker 21: If you think about hip-hop music that white guys listen to, it was terrible to women and other people, but

Speaker 76: we sang along. Do

you think... -

Speaker 76: Do I morally own every bit of Kanye I've ever sang

I

Speaker 78: don't know, that one particular Kanye song that was just a little bit more targeted. But that being said, I think he's just a young idiot. - Wait, wait

on

Speaker 141: the looks maxing side or on the international travel? - I

Speaker 78: think all of the above, but at the same time, um i think you i think the reaction to a young idiot gives him more credibility than he deserves like like who cares like i get it

he's an

Speaker 18: internet phenomenon i understand the social media draw and i understand all that because we're obsessed with like the weird and wild right he's a freak show essentially um that women find attractive but he's a freak show and that's why we're drawn to him

Speaker 142: bro if i had to like hammer my face

Speaker 143: and chisel my jaw and break my legs for me

to find me attractive. But

Speaker 143: you don't. That literally does nothing

Speaker 144: Oh, I hammer my face. That's why I look like I have hammered my face. You do that all the time, actually. Pearson's doing that in his office. Yeah

Speaker 145: I go home after this podcast and I hammer my face

I thought that's

Speaker 44: what we'd do on air. But let me make the other

Speaker 146: argument, David, as to why it does matter

look at

Speaker 146: the generation israel's

Speaker 93: losing yeah it's not the boomers yeah it's gen

Speaker 18: z yeah but why are they losing gen z i guess i get it this could have been a great opportunity to take a gen z influencer and kind of change the narrative pro israel but in reality all they had to do is not be political i know but but israel's losing a bigger battle and that is the battle of propaganda on social media and maybe they're engaged in it maybe they're not i don't think i mean they they file

Speaker 135: forms with our government saying they are. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So I don't think it's like, maybe they are, maybe they aren't. - So

Speaker 148: let's just acknowledge it. - They are. - Yes, I'm just trying to avoid the, I would like to hammer my own

Speaker 19: face. I'm avoiding having my face hammered involuntarily. No, I'm just kidding. But realistically, I think, yes, sure, Israel could have had an opportunity here, but at the same time, standing up, I don't think the people of Israel would have appreciated him getting a pass. Um, at some point you have to, you have to defend your values. And I think in this instance, maybe there's other opportunities to attract to young people. But I think that the issue Israel is having with young people isn't, um, is it's the internet. The internet is, is really attacking Israel. And I think it's very specific to divide us, which will segue nicely into this ice stuff, because a lot of the criticism against Israel, it's just being

Speaker 18: used by people who want to destroy this country to divide us so they can destroy this country. And yes, maybe Israel

Speaker 149: Maybe you're right

I

Speaker 149: just think

it's missing

Speaker 149: an easy putt i think like

Speaker 152: sometimes and maybe it's different in israel where politics is more fervent and prescient than here but i

Speaker 4: feel in america like some people just want a place they can go that is a safe space outside of politics you know some people it's sports

Speaker 154: for some people it's go to a concert you know nobody wants to hear but do you

Speaker 78: think nick fuentes would be welcomed into the fictional city of wakanda like like at some point they're gonna go we've seen your

Speaker 19: stuff you're not welcome because the people of that nation will be like we've seen your stuff you're not welcome and and so i very different comparison

Speaker 148: it's the same comparison because you mentioned if it's a young white male allowed to do whatever he wants that's his

Speaker 155: identity well not not just allowed to be you're not be responsible

Speaker 73: for black

Speaker 78: lyrics

Speaker 156: that we sing well because we don't know what we're hearing we don't really understand it but

Speaker 78: the response would have been exactly

Speaker 19: the same if he went if he was singing different you're you're 20 you have the 2020 lyrics actually i don't think it's the same thing i think it's actually much The 2020 lyrics we were singing along, it was in the song. We like the song, we're singing along because we didn't have the

Speaker 157: right to use those words, but we can nod our head to them. The Kanye song was way different

Speaker 158: You say it's a fair point that when it's the explicit glorification of Hitler, that's

Speaker 157: different than... Versus the N-word appearing in a rap song that we're nodding our head to

Speaker 19: It's not the same thing. And so I really think that's

a

Speaker 19: difficult example to make. But if there was a song written by somebody like Nick Fuentes that said horrible things about the black community

I

Speaker 18: don't think that person would be welcomed into the black community just because it would be good PR. And I think that's the issue here

I

Speaker 159: listened to Evanescence in high school

I

Speaker 160: I'm sure, you still listen. - You look like you listen to

Speaker 161: Evanescence. Another

Speaker 16: big thing we got going on in the country right now is how to deal with the ICE enforcement. multiple of these ICE-involved shootings. We never want to see a shooting, but I have

Speaker 60: looked at some of the evidence, and it does concern me

Speaker 4: when people are out there agitating ICE, getting in the way, creating harmful conditions for the enforcement of our immigration laws. So I tend pretty far on the pro-ICE side on all of this. - Yeah, definitely. If if we don't have there's this big talk about traffic stops now, right? Because the traffic stop in a lot of ways is the front porch of a law enforcement encounter. Now, ICE

Speaker 5: temporarily potentially pausing these traffic stops. President Trump reportedly did not like that news, wants

Speaker 12: it happening again. What are you following in this story, Pearson? I

Speaker 13: think it's great. I think I good. They should be shot. they're criminals my position is

Speaker 23: if you try and run over a police officer you should be shot i'll run on that platform like i think oh

Speaker 164: anybody trying to kill a police officer subjects themselves to legal force that's that's clear when

Speaker 23: you're when you're chasing criminals you know danger comes with the job like we don't

make

Speaker 9: america safer by telling criminals that we're not going to go after them we make americans less safe you know we we enable this we make it permissible The problem

is this is

Speaker 9: what commies do. This is a commie op. Well, this is a commie op. This is a commie op. In Minneapolis, we had a commie op. Trump was going in and trying to bust heads and get the criminals out. You know, a thousand times, he told us on the campaign trail, mass deportations. I'm going to bring mass deportations. That's what he promised. And that's what he started doing. That's what we had in Minneapolis. And then we had a commie op. We had a couple of these commies go out there and martyr themselves. And then... It worked. We shut it down. We got rid of Greg Bovino. The problem is you can't... Deporting people is not gonna be popular among a lot of people, especially with the communists. And you can't carry out a promise like mass deportations if you're constantly gonna be looking at the poll numbers and worrying about whether it's popular or not. You have to just do it and damn the consequences

Speaker 14: You can do what's right or you can do what's popular

Speaker 78: I think there's

a

Speaker 78: It is a cameop, but I want to be clear on what part is the cameop. I don't think this illegal alien was MKUltra to

Speaker 18: drive in circles slowly until he got shot. I think the reaction to these events are the cameop. We had the instance in Texas. They tried a week

Speaker 78: ago. There was another shooting of an illegal alien using his car as a weapon. That guy ended

Speaker 19: up having meth in his car or something. So like, well, maybe this isn't the best example. Ooh, this guy had his wife and kid in the car. Let's use this one. It's the same thing with the Renee Goode. Like these people are idiots. They find themselves in these situations, but it's the response that's the commie

Speaker 18: op. And unfortunately, they're so good at the response. I mean, even at student Collins of Maine, a Republican on our side was like, "Yeah, maybe we should stop these stops." Without even asking

Speaker 28: how these stops, are valuable to ICE. And as a matter of fact, the stop is the most important thing that ICE has because

Speaker 58: illegal aliens who are fleeing from being deported are not waiting at home for you to deport them. They're driving away from you. So you have to stop them. So when you say, hey, ICE, you can catch them in their home, but if they get in their car, stay away. Especially in sanctuary places

Speaker 28: where these things keep occurring, where the law enforcement doesn't even have an authorization to assist you in the stop. So ICE has to do the stop. Taking away their ability to stop would have actually made it so much more dangerous because because now they would have been encouraged

Speaker 167: to flee. All you have to do, illegal alien, is get out of your house and get in your car and they can't touch you. It's like on base. Yeah, every car becomes a sanctuary city. Correct. It's super

Speaker 34: important, too, because it's really dangerous for cops to show up or for ICE to show up at someone's house. How many of them are in that house? What kind of situation are they going to encounter? They're going to have to go inside the house, and then they don't know the environment. They don't know what's going on. They get you in the car

Speaker 9: It's safer for everybody. I

Speaker 113: feel like there's a bigger story here because they put the pause on the traffic

Speaker 4: stops. Trump didn't like that. Trump didn't know about that. Trump immediately reverses that. And so that has me thinking, with the

Speaker 22: Mark Wayne Mullen team that came in, are there some rats in the woodpile? I think he might be

Speaker 49: the rat. I mean, the order came from him

R

Speaker 49: Really? - Yeah. That was from the article I

Speaker 67: read. - It's been reported. - Yeah. - But at the same time

Speaker 170: Put Greg Bovino back in, man. - No, Tom Holman-- - Filled the government top to bottom

Speaker 148: with Greg Bovino. - Tom Holman said it was temporary to evaluate what happened in the situation. - Yeah, no, see, we're caving in. Every time these commies do an op, we blink

Speaker 86: Well, I think the problem is-- - Pearson would have stopped every car. - Yes! - Maybe checkpoints. - Let's profile

But-- But I

Speaker 86: think

Speaker 18: the issue here is, we saw what happened after Renee Goode. We saw what happened after Alex Preeti. You saw what happened at Delaney Hall in New Jersey. You saw what happened in Portland. You have these blue, it's always

Speaker 63: in a blue state. And it's always that the response turns into something that's much bigger. I can give Mark Wayne Mullen a pass by saying

Speaker 18: Nope. - He was probably trying to avoid this actually making it more dangerous for ICE officials to do their job. So a temporary pause in traffic stuff maybe would have stopped the behavior. But I think he's approaching it like a reasonable Republican. And as Rush Limbaugh used to say, you being nice to the media or you being nice to Democrats and expecting them to treat you differently is a mistake. And so I think by appeasing them, you only motivate them. And I think President Trump has the right approach here in saying, no, no, no, no, we're not taking this away. We can do an investigation. And you said, and I think you're right. It looks

Speaker 63: bad from the videos. I mean, that was a... The guy was driving slow in circles, a lot of shots were in the officer's interpretation was that he was posing a risk to the public. Maybe that's true. That's what investigations are for. But the fact, the bigger issue here, and you mentioned the one very interesting angle, the Mark Waid Mullen angle, and if there's going

to be

Speaker 63: a disagreement. The bigger question is when you have members of Congress, actually sitting members of Congress, and mayors of cities like Zoran Mandani running out there and calling ICE agents murderers. before the ink is dry on the preliminary report, that immediately puts ICE agents' lives at risk. And that, in my opinion, borders on the line of criminal. If there was a member of Congress, and you have the right to free speech, but when you call somebody a murderer, and you jump to the conclusion that somebody murdered somebody, and then there is violence as a result, and somebody gets injured, I think you go beyond the House Ethics Committee, which I think, as a minimum, needs to open investigations to every member of Congress to call federal agents serving their

Speaker 97: laws, calling them murderers

I

Speaker 97: think we have a bigger issue here. And I'd like to see more media attention being dedicated to that

Final story

Speaker 173: I wanna talk about. Euthanasia

Speaker 174: We're seeing this trend around the world where more and more governments are allowing people at the end of

Speaker 154: life to take their own life, to terminate their life. Pearson, you shared with me earlier, 5% of deaths in Canada

Speaker 175: 5% of deaths? - One out of

Speaker 154: every 20 deaths in Canada

Speaker 9: is not-- - Now assisted suicide

Y

Speaker 175: Yeah

Speaker 176: is that-- - And

Speaker 9: what's crazy about that

Speaker 177: too, is 95% of those are white. I'm

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Speaker 87: of

Speaker 9: Canadians. No, they're not. I'm just kidding. 95% of the people killing themselves are white

I don't know

Speaker 9: if you know, but Canada has a massive immigration problem right now. Kind of like ours

Speaker 179: but much worse. And immigration from India and from other third world countries is just flooding through the country

Speaker 4: So the places where we've seen this, France, Canada, and you know what it got me thinking about? These are places with

Speaker 5: universal health care. And I wonder if, and

I hope

Speaker 5: this isn't true

but I

Speaker 5: wonder if health care practitioners aren't pushing people at the end of life to end their life, not because it's what's best for that person or the family, but it's just a mathematical calculation

Am I

Speaker 5: reading too

Speaker 181: too deeply into a dark human heart

Speaker 5: here

L

Speaker 182: Less burden on the healthcare system. - Look, I mean, I think there's

Speaker 18: validity to that. If you look at COVID and the population it targeted and who created that, but yes, healthcare sucks in universal healthcare places. And

Speaker 19: maybe somebody's suffering so badly because they can't get an MRI that they'd rather kill themselves. That's a different situation. But I do think this is a very, this is something I struggle with because Look, I'm against abortion. I believe life

Speaker 18: begins at conception, and you honor life, right? There are certain exceptions, I think, where we can evaluate whether or not access to an abortion should be legal. But when

it comes to the end

Speaker 18: of life, if your dog is suffering, right, what do we do? But people aren't dogs

Speaker 183: No, I get it. But

Speaker 51: sometimes

Speaker 184: dogs get better health care than people. That's a huge distinction. And I

Speaker 51: mean, you know, at the end of my dog's life, we had to make the decision

Speaker 5: that keeping her around would help. had been more pain for her. It would not have been for her benefits. So she got a lethal dose and that concluded her life. And I love that dog more than almost

Speaker 185: every person I've ever met. - It's compassion, but let me

say

Speaker 18: something. Let me say something here. Because I've literally saw, I've sat next to a friend who was in his 20s and died of Ewing's sarcoma. I was with him until his last days. He withered away to nothing. And you know how he died at the end of the day? Yes, it was natural causes, but have you ever

Speaker 63: been with somebody who's young and strong and has been in hospice? They pump you with so much pain medicine, it

Speaker 18: kills you just by your heart stopping from the amount of medication. It almost is like euthanasia. We just don't call it that. But hospice, in a lot of instances, when it's really happening, when it's real hospice, not on a piece of paper

Speaker 187: that's not actually occurring. Intent is different. Intent matters. No, it doesn't because it's false intent. Yes, it does. You

Speaker 28: inject somebody with so much drugs that their heart literally stops, but you do it because they're in so much pain that you have to do that. 'cause

you

Speaker 19: kept them alive so long that they had to suffer so badly that the drugs had to kill them. I think at some point you leave it between a person, individual decision, and their doctors. Now I think you have to be very careful that it's not just some person with a psychosis. - So you would

Speaker 188: allow it in some cases

Speaker 155: In some instances, yeah. - And by the way, practically speaking

I

Speaker 155: think in a lot of hospitals, this happens where they up

Speaker 189: the dose of morphine. We've all seen it. Right. We've all seen it

But

Speaker 190: it's not until

Speaker 189: they're suffering so badly. It's not until they're suffering

Speaker 177: so badly that we do that. Between just doing that in a hospital and actually making it a law. Is your

Speaker 60: principal objection a religious one

Yes

Speaker 60: okay so it's not it's not a practical one it's not it

Speaker 192: is it is a

Speaker 13: life-based life is precious life comes from god we do not own our lives they belong to god and we don't have the right to take

Speaker 92: them and christian medicine yeah all family

Speaker 26: pharmacies of course but i'm not killing

Speaker 194: myself with medicine but god

Speaker 26: created

that

Speaker 194: medicine so you yeah but he didn't give you the right to kill yourself and david christians don't believe that suffering makes a life worthless

And

Speaker 194: that's the point. You know, mercy means easing suffering and refusing abandonment. But how would you ease suffering of somebody that- Well, you give them as much medication or as help as you can, but at the end, suffering is a part of life, and

Speaker 82: that doesn't mean you get to end it or kill yourself. Yeah, but whose decision is it? How much somebody has to suffer before they're allowed to be free of the pain

This is

Speaker 82: God's realm. We don't have the right over life and death. - But you say we, so you wanna pass a law that says because of your religious belief, somebody has to suffer until they're pumped with morphine to die. - It is

not charitable to

Speaker 13: kill people because they're suffering. That is not the charitable thing to do. And the setting aside

the

Speaker 13: religious aspect of it, there's also the terrifying implications of giving the government that ability. And that is almost more concerning at this point because there's one story

that I

Speaker 13: was encountering here where this woman with back pain in Canada, she goes to the hospital for

back pain And

Speaker 13: the first

Speaker 118: thing the doctor says was, "Well, have you considered suicide?" -Well... -I

Speaker 196: think they asked that at the ER. -And that's just... -It's San Diego. Like

Speaker 49: jokes aside, though, that's just one example. There are lots of them that are similar, and... -But you think

Speaker 197: that question is cajoling

This is a communist. You

Speaker 197: don't think that question is, like, preventative? You think it's trying to cajole the person

into a

Speaker 198: suicide? Yes. Yeah, and

there have

Speaker 198: been a lot of these cases. There have been a lot of these cases. We could make a whole report about this, and I probably should, where these communist

Speaker 118: governments want to kill the people. They just

want to

Speaker 118: get rid of them. They get old or they get sick or whatever it is. To me, it'll be interesting to see

if

Speaker 118: They're offering the children. - If free

Speaker 11: market healthcare goes this way too, or if

Speaker 48: this actually is a feature, an outgrowth of socialized medicine. - It would depend on the reimbursement. - Which is actually, which is probably what is so blood boiling for Pearson and many others

when

Speaker 71: they say like, no, you don't, we're actually, It is sacrilegious to treat a beating heart, a soul, a living life

Speaker 199: like a line item on a spreadsheet that can just be deleted because it's economically efficient to do

Speaker 13: so. Communists don't value life. It's meaningless. They don't care about you. They don't care about me. They don't care about anything. It's just power. "Sure, go ahead, kill yourself. We don't care. In fact, fine. Please do it. Get rid of yourself. Stop being a burden on us." They've been actually offering this to children. That was one of the headlines that came out recently. Yeah, there was a kid they actually offered suicide to. I think he was like eight. - Oh, geez. - Well, that would be terrible. - Well, I mean, did he have

Speaker 201: cancer? I mean, was there some other... - I don't

Speaker 202: remember the specifics. I mean, we can throw it up and I'll find it later, but

Speaker 118: Yeah, I mean, it's horrifying to give the government this ability, one

but

Speaker 118: Two, to just view life as something that you can

Speaker 203: end. It's not worth living

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